Compare 2012 Subaru Forester vs 2012 Dodge Journey

2012 Subaru Forester
2012 Dodge Journey
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4-Door Manual 2.5X
Style MPG City MPG Hwy Invoice MSRP
4-Door Manual 2.5X 21 27 $19,489 $20,595
4-Door Manual PZEV 2.5X 21 27 $19,798 $20,895
4-Door Automatic 2.5X 21 27 $20,580 $21,795
4-Door Automatic PZEV 2.5X 21 27 $20,888 $22,095
4-Door Manual 2.5X Premium 21 27 $21,960 $23,295
4-Door Manual PZEV 2.5X Premium 21 27 $22,269 $23,595
4-Door Automatic 2.5X Premium 21 27 $22,869 $24,295
4-Door Automatic PZEV 2.5X Premium 21 27 $23,178 $24,595
4-Door Automatic 2.5X Limited 21 27 $24,905 $26,595
4-Door Automatic PZEV 2.5X Limited 21 27 $25,214 $26,895
4-Door Automatic 2.5XT Premium 19 24 $25,407 $27,095
4-Door Automatic 2.5X Touring 21 27 $26,094 $27,895
4-Door Automatic PZEV 2.5X Touring 21 27 $26,403 $28,195
4-Door Automatic 2.5XT Touring 19 24 $27,992 $29,895
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FWD 4-Door SE
Style MPG City MPG Hwy Invoice MSRP
FWD 4-Door American Value Pkg 19 26 $18,855 $18,995
FWD 4-Door SE 19 26 $18,855 $18,995
FWD 4-Door SXT 19 26 $22,155 $22,995
AWD 4-Door SXT 16 24 $25,283 $26,395
FWD 4-Door Crew 17 25 $26,939 $28,195
AWD 4-Door Crew 16 24 $28,595 $29,995
FWD 4-Door R/T 17 25 $28,595 $29,995
AWD 4-Door R/T 16 24 $30,251 $31,795
Pricing
Invoice Price
$19,489
$18,855
Manufacturer Suggested Retail Price
$20,595
$18,995
Monthly Payment Estimate
$343 / month
$317 / month
The Car Connection's Take
TCC Rating
7.4
8.0
TCC’s Bottom Line
The 2012 Subaru Forester is tough, all-weather-capable, and one of the best-handling compact crossovers--plus, a blast to drive in XT turbo form--but an old-tech automatic transmission and econo-caliber interior remain letdowns. Practical without being too prim, the 2012 Dodge Journey cuts an interesting figure and spans the gulf between compact crossovers and family-grade SUVs.
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Fuel Economy
City
21 mpg 19 mpg
Highway
27 mpg 26 mpg
Vehicle
EPA Classification
Sport Utility Vehicle - AWD 2WD Sport Utility Vehicle
Interior Dimensions
Second Head Room (in)
40.4 39.9
Second Shoulder Room (in)
55.6 56.9
Front Leg Room (in)
43.1 40.8
Passenger Capacity
5 5
Front Hip Room (in)
52.9 53.8
Second Leg Room (in)
38.0 33.6
Front Head Room (in)
41.6 40.8
Second Hip Room (in)
52.7 54.4
Front Shoulder Room (in)
56.1 57.5
Passenger Volume (ft³)
107.6 99.6
Third Leg Room (in)
- NA
Third Hip Room (in)
- NA
Third Head Room (in)
- NA
Third Shoulder Room (in)
- NA
Exterior Dimensions
Min Ground Clearance (in)
8.9 - TBD -
Length, Overall (in)
179.5 192.4
Rear Door Opening Width (in)
- TBD - - TBD -
Height, Overall (in)
65.9 66.6
Liftover Height (in)
27.4 30.8
Track Width, Rear (in)
60.2 62.3
Wheelbase (in)
103.0 113.8
Rear Door Opening Height (in)
- TBD - - TBD -
Width, Max w/o mirrors (in)
70.1 72.2
Track Width, Front (in)
60.2 61.8
Cargo Area Dimensions
Cargo Volume to Seat 1 (ft³)
33.5 67.6
Cargo Area Length @ Floor to Seat 3 (in)
NA NA
Cargo Volume to Seat 3 (ft³)
NA NA
Cargo Box Width @ Wheelhousings (in)
42.2 41.4
Cargo Area Length @ Floor to Seat 2 (in)
37.5 - TBD -
Cargo Volume to Seat 2 (ft³)
68.3 39.6
Cargo Area Width @ Beltline (in)
- TBD - - TBD -
Cargo Box (Area) Height (in)
33.9 33.1
Cargo Area Length @ Floor to Seat 1 (in)
61.8 - TBD -
Brakes
Brake ABS System
4-Wheel 4-Wheel
Disc - Rear (Yes or )
Yes Yes
Rear Brake Rotor Diam x Thickness (in)
11.3 x - TBD - 12.0 x 0.5
Brake Type
Power Pwr
Rear Drum Diam x Width (in)
NA NA
Disc - Front (Yes or )
Yes Yes
Front Brake Rotor Diam x Thickness (in)
11.7 x - TBD - 11.9 x 1.1
Drum - Rear (Yes or )
NA NA
Fuel Tank
Fuel Tank Capacity, Approx (gal)
16.9 20.5
Steering
Steering Ratio (:1), Overall
16.5 16.5
Turning Diameter - Curb to Curb (ft)
34.4 38.5
Steering Type
Pwr Rack & Pinion Pwr Rack & Pinion
Lock to Lock Turns (Steering)
3.2 2.9
Turning Diameter - Wall to Wall (ft)
- TBD - - TBD -
Tires
Front Tire Size
P215/65HR16 P225/70R16
Spare Tire Size
Compact Compact
Front Tire Order Code
NA TRD
Spare Tire Order Code
NA TBK
Rear Tire Size
P215/65HR16 P225/70R16
Rear Tire Order Code
NA TRD
Trailering
Dead Weight Hitch - Max Tongue Wt. (lbs)
240 100
Wt Distributing Hitch - Max Tongue Wt. (lbs)
360 150
Dead Weight Hitch - Max Trailer Wt. (lbs)
2400 1000
Wt Distributing Hitch - Max Trailer Wt. (lbs)
2400 1000
Weight Information
Base Curb Weight (lbs)
3250 3818
Wheels
Spare Wheel Size (in)
Compact Compact
Rear Wheel Material
Steel Steel
Rear Wheel Size (in)
16 x 6.5 16 x 6.5
Front Wheel Material
Steel Steel
Spare Wheel Material
Compact Steel
Front Wheel Size (in)
16 x 6.5 16 x 6.5
Cooling System
Total Cooling System Capacity (qts)
- TBD - 7.9
Electrical
Cold Cranking Amps @ 0° F (Primary)
- TBD - 525
Maximum Alternator Capacity (amps)
90 160
Engine
Displacement
2.5L/152 2.4L/144
SAE Net Horsepower @ RPM
170 @ 5800 173 @ 6000
Engine Type
Gas Flat 4 Gas I4
Fuel System
Electronic Fuel Injection Electronic Fuel Injection
SAE Net Torque @ RPM
174 @ 4100 166 @ 4000
Engine Order Code
NA ED3
Mileage
EPA Fuel Economy Est - City (MPG)
21 19
Fuel Economy Est-Combined (MPG)
23 22
EPA Fuel Economy Est - Hwy (MPG)
27 26
Transmission
Clutch Size (in)
- TBD - NA
Third Gear Ratio (:1)
1.45 1.00
Trans Type
5 4
Drivetrain
All Wheel Drive Front Wheel Drive
Fifth Gear Ratio (:1)
0.78 NA
Trans Description Cont. Again
NA NA
Reverse Ratio (:1)
3.33 2.21
Second Gear Ratio (:1)
2.06 1.57
Trans Order Code
NA DFF
Final Drive Axle Ratio (:1)
4.11 4.28
Fourth Gear Ratio (:1)
1.09 0.69
Trans Description Cont.
Manual Automatic
Seventh Gear Ratio (:1)
NA -
Sixth Gear Ratio (:1)
NA NA
First Gear Ratio (:1)
3.45 2.84
Summary
Vehicle Name
Subaru Forester Dodge Journey
Body Style
Sport Utility Vehicle Sport Utility Vehicle
Suspension
Stabilizer Bar Diameter - Front (in)
- TBD - - TBD -
Suspension Type - Rear
Double Wishbone Multi-Link
Suspension Type - Rear (Cont.)
NA w/Coil Springs
Shock Absorber Diameter - Rear (mm)
NA - TBD -
Suspension Type - Front
MacPherson Strut MacPherson Strut
Stabilizer Bar Diameter - Rear (in)
- TBD - - TBD -
Suspension Type - Front (Cont.)
NA w/Coil Springs
Shock Absorber Diameter - Front (mm)
NA - TBD -
Emissions
EPA Greenhouse Gas Score
5 5
Tons/yr of CO2 Emissions @ 15K mi/year
8.1 8.3
Crash Test Ratings
Overall Rating
Overall Frontal Barrier Crash Rating
Frontal Barrier Crash Rating Driver
Frontal Barrier Crash Rating Passenger
Overall Side Crash Rating
Side Barrier Rating
Side Barrier Rating Driver
Side Barrier Rating Passenger Rear Seat
Side Pole Rating Driver Front Seat
Combined Side Rating Front Seat
Combined Side Rating Rear Seat
Rollover Rating

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