2008 Jeep Patriot vs 2009 Subaru Forester

2008 Jeep Patriot

2009 Subaru Forester

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4WD 4-Door Limited

Style	MPG City	MPG Hwy	Invoice	MSRP
Patriot 4WD 4-Door Limited	22	27	$21,278	$22,855
Patriot 4WD 4-Door Sport	22	27	$17,074	$18,235
Patriot FWD 4-Door Limited	23	28	$19,686	$21,105
Patriot FWD 4-Door Sport	23	28	$15,481	$16,485

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4-Door Automatic X

Style	MPG City	MPG Hwy	Invoice	MSRP
Forester (Natl) 4-Door Automatic X	20	26	$20,028	$21,195
Forester (Natl) 4-Door Automatic X L.L. Bean Ed	20	26	$24,330	$25,995
Forester (Natl) 4-Door Automatic X L.L. Bean Ed PZEV	20	26	$24,541	$26,195
Forester (Natl) 4-Door Automatic X L.L. Bean w/Nav	20	26	$25,977	$27,795
Forester (Natl) 4-Door Automatic X L.L. Bean w/Nav PZEV	20	26	$26,188	$27,995
Forester (Natl) 4-Door Automatic X Limited	20	26	$24,355	$25,995
Forester (Natl) 4-Door Automatic X Limited PZEV	20	26	$24,566	$26,195
Forester (Natl) 4-Door Automatic X Limited w/Nav	20	26	$26,002	$27,795
Forester (Natl) 4-Door Automatic X Limited w/Nav PZEV	20	26	$26,213	$27,995
Forester (Natl) 4-Door Automatic X PZEV	20	26	$20,239	$21,395
Forester (Natl) 4-Door Automatic X w/Prem/All-Weather	20	26	$22,471	$23,895
Forester (Natl) 4-Door Automatic X w/Prem/All-Weather PZEV	20	26	$22,682	$24,095
Forester (Natl) 4-Door Automatic X w/Premium Pkg	20	26	$22,104	$23,495
Forester (Natl) 4-Door Automatic X w/Premium Pkg PZEV	20	26	$22,315	$23,695
Forester (Natl) 4-Door Automatic XT	19	24	$24,582	$26,195
Forester (Natl) 4-Door Automatic XT Ltd	19	24	$26,409	$28,195
Forester (Natl) 4-Door Automatic XT Ltd w/Nav	19	24	$28,059	$29,995
Forester (Natl) 4-Door Manual X	20	27	$18,938	$19,995
Forester (Natl) 4-Door Manual X PZEV	20	27	$19,149	$20,195
Forester (Natl) 4-Door Manual X w/Prem/All-Weather	20	27	$21,563	$22,895
Forester (Natl) 4-Door Manual X w/Prem/All-Weather PZEV	20	27	$21,774	$23,095
Forester (Natl) 4-Door Manual X w/Premium Pkg	20	27	$21,196	$22,495
Forester (Natl) 4-Door Manual X w/Premium Pkg PZEV	20	27	$21,407	$22,695

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Pricing

Invoice Price

$21,278

$20,028

Manufacturer Suggested Retail Price

$22,855

$21,195

Monthly Payment Estimate

$381 / month

$353 / month

The Car Connection's Take

TCC Rating

7.4

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8.0

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TCC’s Bottom Line

Safe and city-friendly, yet tough enough for weekend camping—and bargain-priced—the 2008 Jeep Patriot has a lot going for it.

It’s significantly improved this year, but the 2009 Subaru Forester remains a unique all-wheel-drive crossover with less power and fewer features, but better carlike handling, than its competition.

TCC Likes

Great styling bestows rugged Jeep looks to a carlike vehicle
Handling and maneuverability of a small car
Easy to park

Improved styling
Reduced interior noise
All-wheel drive

TCC Dislikes

Excessive engine noise on acceleration or in hilly terrain
Road noise on coarse surfaces
Interior has too much hard plastic

Still not a great-looking machine
No manual gearbox on turbo models
Only four speeds on automatic

Fuel Economy

City

22 mpg

20 mpg

Highway

27 mpg

26 mpg

Vehicle

EPA Classification

4WD Sport Utility Vehicles

4WD Sport Utility

Interior Dimensions

Front Hip Room (in)

52.3

52.9

Passenger Volume (ft³)

101.7

107.6

Second Leg Room (in)

39.6

38.0

Front Head Room (in)

41.0

41.6

Second Hip Room (in)

51.0

52.7

Front Shoulder Room (in)

54.6

56.1

Passenger Capacity

Second Head Room (in)

39.3

40.4

Second Shoulder Room (in)

54.6

55.6

Front Leg Room (in)

40.6

43.1

Exterior Dimensions

Track Width, Rear (in)

59.8

60.2

Wheelbase (in)

103.7

103

Rear Door Opening Height (in)

27.4

32.8

Width, Max w/o mirrors (in)

69.1

70.1

Track Width, Front (in)

59.8

60.2

Min Ground Clearance (in)

9.0

8.7

Length, Overall (in)

173.6

179.5

Rear Door Opening Width (in)

45.1

38.4

Height, Overall (in)

64.4

65.9

Liftover Height (in)

30.5

27.4

Cargo Area Dimensions

Cargo Volume to Seat 2 (ft³)

23.0

33.5

Cargo Area Width @ Beltline (in)

- TBD -

53.25

Cargo Box (Area) Height (in)

- TBD -

33.9

Cargo Area Length @ Floor to Seat 1 (in)

- TBD -

61.8

Cargo Volume to Seat 1 (ft³)

54.2

68.3

Cargo Area Length @ Floor to Seat 3 (in)

- TBD -

Cargo Volume to Seat 3 (ft³)

Cargo Box Width @ Wheelhousings (in)

38.0

42.2

Cargo Area Length @ Floor to Seat 2 (in)

- TBD -

37.5

Brakes

Rear Drum Diam x Width (in)

Disc - Front (Yes or )

Yes

Front Brake Rotor Diam x Thickness (in)

11.5 x 1.0

11.7 x - TBD -

Drum - Rear (Yes or )

Brake ABS System

4-Wheel

Disc - Rear (Yes or )

Yes

Rear Brake Rotor Diam x Thickness (in)

10.3 x 0.4

11.3 x - TBD -

Brake Type

Pwr

Power

Fuel Tank

Fuel Tank Capacity, Approx (gal)

13.5

16.9

Steering

Lock to Lock Turns (Steering)

2.88

3.0

Turning Diameter - Wall to Wall (ft)

- TBD -

37.4

Steering Ratio (:1), Overall

16.4

Variable

Turning Diameter - Curb to Curb (ft)

35.6

34.4

Steering Type

Pwr rack & pinion

Pwr Rack & Pinion

Tires

Spare Tire Order Code

Rear Tire Size

P215/60R17

P215/65HR16

Rear Tire Order Code

TTU

Front Tire Size

P215/60R17

P215/65HR16

Spare Tire Size

Compact

Front Tire Order Code

TTU

Trailering

Dead Weight Hitch - Max Tongue Wt. (lbs)

100

200

Wt Distributing Hitch - Max Tongue Wt. (lbs)

100

200

Dead Weight Hitch - Max Trailer Wt. (lbs)

1000

2400

Wt Distributing Hitch - Max Trailer Wt. (lbs)

1000

2400

Weight Information

Base Curb Weight (lbs)

3269

3300

Wheels

Rear Wheel Size (in)

17 x 6.5

16 x 6.5

Front Wheel Material

Aluminum

Steel

Spare Wheel Material

Steel

Front Wheel Size (in)

17 x 6.5

16 x 6.5

Spare Wheel Size (in)

Compact

Rear Wheel Material

Aluminum

Steel

Cooling System

Total Cooling System Capacity (qts)

7.2

Electrical

Cold Cranking Amps @ 0° F (Primary)

525

520

Maximum Alternator Capacity (amps)

120

Engine

Displacement

2.4L/144

2.5L/150

SAE Net Horsepower @ RPM

172 @ 6000

170 @ 6000

Engine Type

Gas I4

Gas Flat 4-Cyl

Fuel System

SMPI

SAE Net Torque @ RPM

165 @ 4400

170 @ 4400

Engine Order Code

ED3

Mileage

EPA Fuel Economy Est - City (MPG)

EPA Fuel Economy Est - Hwy (MPG)

Fuel Economy Est-Combined (MPG)

Transmission

Trans Type

Transfer Case Gear Ratio (:1), High

1.00

Fifth Gear Ratio (:1)

0.81

Trans Description Cont. Again

Drivetrain

4-Wheel Drive

All Wheel Drive

Reverse Ratio (:1)

3.42

2.27

Second Gear Ratio (:1)

2.16

1.55

Trans Order Code

DD7

Final Drive Axle Ratio (:1)

3.91

4.44

Fourth Gear Ratio (:1)

1.03

0.69

Trans Description Cont.

Manual

Automatic w/OD

Transfer Case Gear Ratio (:1), Low

- TBD -

Sixth Gear Ratio (:1)

First Gear Ratio (:1)

3.77

2.79

Clutch Size (in)

- TBD -

Third Gear Ratio (:1)

1.41

1.00

Seventh Gear Ratio (:1)

Summary

Vehicle Name

Jeep Patriot

Subaru Forester (Natl)

Body Style

Sport Utility

4 Door

Suspension

Shock Absorber Diameter - Rear (mm)

- TBD -

Suspension Type - Front

MacPherson Strut

MacPherson-type

Stabilizer Bar Diameter - Rear (in)

- TBD -

0.67

Suspension Type - Front (Cont.)

Stabilizer bar

Shock Absorber Diameter - Front (mm)

- TBD -

Stabilizer Bar Diameter - Front (in)

- TBD -

0.83

Suspension Type - Rear

Multi-link

Double wishbone

Suspension Type - Rear (Cont.)

Stabilizer bar

Emissions

EPA Greenhouse Gas Score

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Pricing

Invoice Price

Manufacturer Suggested Retail Price

Monthly Payment Estimate

The Car Connection's Take

TCC Rating

TCC’s Bottom Line

TCC Likes

TCC Dislikes

Fuel Economy

City

Highway

Vehicle

EPA Classification

Interior Dimensions

Front Hip Room (in)

Passenger Volume (ft³)

Second Leg Room (in)

Front Head Room (in)

Second Hip Room (in)

Front Shoulder Room (in)

Passenger Capacity

Second Head Room (in)

Second Shoulder Room (in)

Front Leg Room (in)

Exterior Dimensions

Track Width, Rear (in)

Wheelbase (in)

Rear Door Opening Height (in)

Width, Max w/o mirrors (in)

Track Width, Front (in)

Min Ground Clearance (in)

Length, Overall (in)

Rear Door Opening Width (in)

Height, Overall (in)

Liftover Height (in)

Cargo Area Dimensions

Cargo Volume to Seat 2 (ft³)

Cargo Area Width @ Beltline (in)

Cargo Box (Area) Height (in)

Cargo Area Length @ Floor to Seat 1 (in)

Cargo Volume to Seat 1 (ft³)

Cargo Area Length @ Floor to Seat 3 (in)

Cargo Volume to Seat 3 (ft³)

Cargo Box Width @ Wheelhousings (in)

Cargo Area Length @ Floor to Seat 2 (in)

Brakes

Rear Drum Diam x Width (in)

Disc - Front (Yes or )

Front Brake Rotor Diam x Thickness (in)

Drum - Rear (Yes or )

Brake ABS System

Disc - Rear (Yes or )

Rear Brake Rotor Diam x Thickness (in)

Brake Type

Fuel Tank

Fuel Tank Capacity, Approx (gal)

Steering

Lock to Lock Turns (Steering)

Turning Diameter - Wall to Wall (ft)

Steering Ratio (:1), Overall

Turning Diameter - Curb to Curb (ft)

Steering Type

Tires

Spare Tire Order Code

Rear Tire Size

Rear Tire Order Code

Front Tire Size

Spare Tire Size

Front Tire Order Code

Trailering

Dead Weight Hitch - Max Tongue Wt. (lbs)

Wt Distributing Hitch - Max Tongue Wt. (lbs)

Dead Weight Hitch - Max Trailer Wt. (lbs)

Wt Distributing Hitch - Max Trailer Wt. (lbs)

Weight Information

Base Curb Weight (lbs)

Wheels

Rear Wheel Size (in)