Compare 2004 Honda Element vs 2004 Subaru Forester

2004 Honda Element
2004 Subaru Forester
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2WD DX Automatic
Style MPG City MPG Hwy Invoice MSRP
Element 2WD DX Automatic 22 26 $15,618 $16,900
Element 2WD DX Manual 21 26 $14,880 $16,100
Element 2WD EX Automatic 22 26 $18,201 $19,700
Element 2WD EX Automatic w/Side Airbags 22 26 $18,431 $19,950
Element 2WD EX Manual 21 26 $17,463 $18,900
Element 2WD EX Manual w/Side Airbags 21 26 $17,693 $19,150
Element 2WD LX Automatic 22 26 $16,540 $17,900
Element 2WD LX Manual 21 26 $15,803 $17,100
Element 4WD DX Automatic 21 24 $16,909 $18,300
Element 4WD DX Manual 21 24 $16,172 $17,500
Element 4WD EX Automatic 21 24 $19,492 $21,100
Element 4WD EX Automatic w/Side Airbags 21 24 $19,723 $21,350
Element 4WD EX Manual 21 24 $18,754 $20,300
Element 4WD EX Manual w/Side Airbags 21 24 $18,985 $20,550
Element 4WD LX Automatic 21 24 $17,832 $19,300
Element 4WD LX Manual 21 24 $17,094 $18,500
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4-Door 2.5 X Automatic
Style MPG City MPG Hwy Invoice MSRP
Forester (Natl) 4-Door 2.5 X Automatic 22 27 $19,928 $21,820
Forester (Natl) 4-Door 2.5 X Manual 21 28 $19,209 $21,020
Forester (Natl) 4-Door 2.5 XS Automatic 22 27 $21,870 $24,070
Forester (Natl) 4-Door 2.5 XS Automatic w/Prem Pkg & Lthr 22 27 $23,440 $25,820
Forester (Natl) 4-Door 2.5 XS Automatic w/Premium Pkg 22 27 $22,767 $25,070
Forester (Natl) 4-Door 2.5 XS Manual 21 28 $21,151 $23,270
Forester (Natl) 4-Door 2.5 XS Manual w/Premium Pkg 21 28 $22,048 $24,270
Forester (Natl) 4-Door 2.5 XT Automatic 19 23 $23,604 $25,895
Forester (Natl) 4-Door 2.5 XT Automatic w/Prem Pkg & Lthr 19 23 $25,174 $27,645
Forester (Natl) 4-Door 2.5 XT Manual 18 23 $22,885 $25,095
Pricing
Invoice Price
$15,618
$19,928
Manufacturer Suggested Retail Price
$16,900
$21,820
Monthly Payment Estimate
$282 / month
$364 / month
The Car Connection's Take
TCC Rating
Fuel Economy
City
22 mpg 22 mpg
Highway
26 mpg 27 mpg
Vehicle
EPA Classification
2WD Sport Utility 4WD Sport Utility
Interior Dimensions
Second Hip Room (in)
47.6 51.6
Front Shoulder Room (in)
57.1 53.5
Second Head Room (in)
39.4 39.8
Passenger Capacity
4 5
Second Shoulder Room (in)
52.2 53.6
Front Leg Room (in)
41.0 43.6
Front Hip Room (in)
55.0 51.6
Second Leg Room (in)
39.1 33.7
Front Head Room (in)
43.3 39.8
Passenger Volume (ft³)
103.6 93.5
Exterior Dimensions
Min Ground Clearance (in)
6.9 7.3
Length, Overall (in)
166.5 175.2
Rear Door Opening Width (in)
- TBD - 38.4
Height, Overall (in)
70.4 65.0
Liftover Height (in)
- TBD - 27.4
Track Width, Rear (in)
62.3 58.5
Wheelbase (in)
101.4 99.4
Rear Door Opening Height (in)
- TBD - 32.8
Width, Max w/o mirrors (in)
71.5 68.1
Track Width, Front (in)
62.1 58.9
Cargo Area Dimensions
Cargo Volume to Seat 1 (ft³)
74.6 64.1
Cargo Area Length @ Floor to Seat 3 (in)
NA NA
Cargo Volume to Seat 3 (ft³)
NA NA
Cargo Box Width @ Wheelhousings (in)
- TBD - 37.0
Cargo Area Length @ Floor to Seat 2 (in)
- TBD - 37.8
Cargo Volume to Seat 2 (ft³)
25.1 32.0
Cargo Area Width @ Beltline (in)
38.7 - TBD -
Cargo Box (Area) Height (in)
46.0 33.7
Cargo Area Length @ Floor to Seat 1 (in)
66.7 67.6
Brakes
Drum - Rear (Yes or )
NA Yes
Brake ABS System
NA 4-Wheel
Disc - Rear (Yes or )
Yes NA
Rear Brake Rotor Diam x Thickness (in)
11.1 x 0.4 NA
Brake Type
Pwr Power
Rear Drum Diam x Width (in)
NA 9.0 x 1.4
Disc - Front (Yes or )
Yes Yes
Front Brake Rotor Diam x Thickness (in)
11.1 x 0.9 11.4 x 0.94
Fuel Tank
Fuel Tank Capacity, Approx (gal)
15.9 15.9
Steering
Steering Ratio (:1), Overall
16.2 16.3
Turning Diameter - Curb to Curb (ft)
34.9 34.7
Steering Type
Pwr Rack & Pinion Pwr Rack & Pinion
Lock to Lock Turns (Steering)
3.26 3.0
Turning Diameter - Wall to Wall (ft)
- TBD - 37.4
Tires
Rear Tire Order Code
NA NA
Front Tire Size
P215/70SR16 P215/60HR16
Spare Tire Size
- TBD - P215/60HR16
Front Tire Order Code
NA NA
Spare Tire Order Code
NA NA
Rear Tire Size
P215/70SR16 P215/60HR16
Trailering
Wt Distributing Hitch - Max Tongue Wt. (lbs)
NA NA
Dead Weight Hitch - Max Trailer Wt. (lbs)
1500 2000
Wt Distributing Hitch - Max Trailer Wt. (lbs)
NA NA
Dead Weight Hitch - Max Tongue Wt. (lbs)
150 176
Weight Information
Base Curb Weight (lbs)
3389 3135
Wheels
Spare Wheel Size (in)
- TBD - 16 x 6.5
Rear Wheel Material
Steel Steel
Rear Wheel Size (in)
16 x 6.5 16 x 6.5
Front Wheel Material
Steel Steel
Spare Wheel Material
- TBD - Steel
Front Wheel Size (in)
16 x 6.5 16 x 6.5
Cooling System
Total Cooling System Capacity (qts)
7.6 6.5
Electrical
Maximum Alternator Capacity (amps)
45 90
Cold Cranking Amps @ 0° F (Primary)
- TBD - 520
Engine
Engine Type
Gas I4 Gas Flat 4-Cyl
Fuel System
SMPI SMPI
SAE Net Torque @ RPM
161 @ 4500 166 @ 4000
Engine Order Code
NA NA
Displacement
2.4L/144 2.5L/150
SAE Net Horsepower @ RPM
160 @ 5500 165 @ 5600
Mileage
EPA Fuel Economy Est - City (MPG)
22 22
EPA Fuel Economy Est - Hwy (MPG)
26 27
Transmission
Drivetrain
Front Wheel Drive All Wheel Drive
Reverse Ratio (:1)
2.00 2.27
Second Gear Ratio (:1)
1.54 1.62
Trans Order Code
NA NA
Final Drive Axle Ratio (:1)
4.44 4.44
Fourth Gear Ratio (:1)
0.74 0.69
Trans Description Cont.
Automatic w/OD Automatic w/OD
Sixth Gear Ratio (:1)
NA NA
First Gear Ratio (:1)
2.68 3.03
Clutch Size (in)
NA NA
Third Gear Ratio (:1)
1.08 1.00
Trans Type
4 4
Seventh Gear Ratio (:1)
NA NA
Fifth Gear Ratio (:1)
NA NA
Trans Description Cont. Again
NA NA
Summary
Body Style
4 Door 4 Door
Vehicle Name
Honda Element Subaru Forester (Natl)
Suspension
Shock Absorber Diameter - Front (mm)
- TBD - 32
Stabilizer Bar Diameter - Front (in)
1.18 0.83
Suspension Type - Rear
Compact HD Raised
Suspension Type - Rear (Cont.)
Double Wishbone w/Parallel Links
Shock Absorber Diameter - Rear (mm)
- TBD - 32
Suspension Type - Front
Control-Link HD Raised
Stabilizer Bar Diameter - Rear (in)
0.83 0.67
Suspension Type - Front (Cont.)
MacPherson Strut w/Lower L-Arms

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