Compare 2008 Ford Explorer vs 2009 Honda Pilot

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4WD 4-Door V6 Eddie Bauer
Style MPG City MPG Hwy Invoice MSRP
Explorer 4WD 4-Door V6 Eddie Bauer 13 19 $29,384 $31,565
Explorer 4WD 4-Door V6 Limited 13 19 $32,851 $35,375
Explorer 4WD 4-Door V6 XLT 13 19 $26,881 $28,815
Explorer 4WD 4-Door V8 Eddie Bauer 13 19 $30,576 $32,875
Explorer 4WD 4-Door V8 Limited 13 19 $34,048 $36,690
Explorer 4WD 4-Door V8 XLT 13 19 $28,074 $30,125
Explorer AWD 4-Door V6 Eddie Bauer 13 19 $29,384 $31,565
Explorer AWD 4-Door V6 Limited 13 19 $32,851 $35,375
Explorer AWD 4-Door V8 Eddie Bauer 13 19 $30,576 $32,875
Explorer AWD 4-Door V8 Limited 13 19 $34,048 $36,690
Explorer RWD 4-Door V6 Eddie Bauer 14 20 $27,273 $29,245
Explorer RWD 4-Door V6 Limited 14 20 $30,740 $33,055
Explorer RWD 4-Door V6 XLT 14 20 $24,771 $26,495
Explorer RWD 4-Door V8 Eddie Bauer 13 20 $28,465 $30,555
Explorer RWD 4-Door V8 Limited 13 20 $31,932 $34,365
Explorer RWD 4-Door V8 XLT 13 20 $25,958 $27,800
Explorer Sport Trac 4WD 4-Door V6 Limited 13 19 $27,903 $30,015
Explorer Sport Trac 4WD 4-Door V6 XLT 13 19 $26,002 $27,925
Explorer Sport Trac 4WD 4-Door V8 Limited 13 19 $29,092 $31,320
Explorer Sport Trac 4WD 4-Door V8 XLT 13 19 $27,194 $29,235
Explorer Sport Trac AWD 4-Door V6 Adrenaline 13 19 $27,903 $30,015
Explorer Sport Trac AWD 4-Door V8 Adrenaline 13 19 $29,092 $31,320
Explorer Sport Trac RWD 4-Door V6 Limited 14 20 $25,606 $27,490
Explorer Sport Trac RWD 4-Door V6 XLT 14 20 $23,704 $25,400
Explorer Sport Trac RWD 4-Door V8 Limited 13 20 $26,798 $28,800
Explorer Sport Trac RWD 4-Door V8 XLT 13 20 $24,896 $26,710
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2WD 4-Door EX
Style MPG City MPG Hwy Invoice MSRP
Pilot 2WD 4-Door EX 17 23 $27,631 $30,495
Pilot 2WD 4-Door EX-L 17 23 $30,522 $33,695
Pilot 2WD 4-Door EX-L w/RES 17 23 $31,968 $35,295
Pilot 2WD 4-Door LX 17 23 $25,101 $27,695
Pilot 2WD 4-Door Touring w/Navi 17 23 $33,414 $36,895
Pilot 2WD 4-Door Touring w/RES & Navi 17 23 $34,860 $38,495
Pilot 4WD 4-Door EX 16 22 $29,077 $32,095
Pilot 4WD 4-Door EX-L 16 22 $31,968 $35,295
Pilot 4WD 4-Door EX-L w/RES 16 22 $33,414 $36,895
Pilot 4WD 4-Door LX 16 22 $26,546 $29,295
Pilot 4WD 4-Door Touring w/Navi 16 22 $34,860 $38,495
Pilot 4WD 4-Door Touring w/RES & Navi 16 22 $36,306 $40,095

Pricing

Invoice Price

$29,384
$27,631

Manufacturer Suggested Retail Price

$31,565
$30,495

Monthly Payment Estimate

$526 / month
$508 / month

The Car Connection's Take

TCC Rating

8.2
8.0

TCC’s Bottom Line

As the perennial best-selling truck-based SUV, the Ford Explorer is still the one to beat. The 2009 Honda Pilot looks more SUV-like in its second edition, but it has the room of a minivan, along with some notable styling miscues and expensive choices to make from the options list.

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Fuel Economy

City

13 mpg 17 mpg

Highway

19 mpg 23 mpg

Vehicle

Rear Door Type

Liftgate -

EPA Classification

- 2WD Sport Utility Vehicle

Interior Dimensions

Third Hip Room (in)

NA 48.4

Second Shoulder Room (in)

58.9 62.2

Front Leg Room (in)

42.4 41.4

Third Head Room (in)

NA 38.2

Front Hip Room (in)

55.4 58.6

Third Shoulder Room (in)

NA 58.9

Second Leg Room (in)

36.9 38.5

Passenger Capacity

5 8

Front Head Room (in)

39.8 40.0

Second Hip Room (in)

55.5 56.9

Front Shoulder Room (in)

59.0 61.5

Third Leg Room (in)

NA 32.1

Second Head Room (in)

38.7 39.8

Passenger Volume (ft³)

- 153.7

Exterior Dimensions

Overhang, Front (in)

35.4 -

Step Up Height - Side (in)

- TBD - -

Rear Door Opening Width (in)

- TBD - - TBD -

Ground to Top of Load Floor (in)

31.4 -

Length, Overall w/rear bumper (in)

193.4 -

Side Door Opening Height (in)

NA -

Ground Clearance, Rear (in)

8.3 -

Height, Overall (in)

72.8 72.7

Step Up Height - Front (in)

- TBD - -

Rear Door Opening Height (in)

33.7 - TBD -

Overhang, Rear w/bumper (in)

44.3 -

Wheelbase (in)

113.7 109.2

Ground Clearance, Front (in)

8.3 -

Width, Max w/o mirrors (in)

73.7 78.5

Side Door Opening Width (in)

NA -

Length, Overall (in)

- 190.9

Liftover Height (in)

- NA

Track Width, Rear (in)

- 67.5

Track Width, Front (in)

- 67.7

Min Ground Clearance (in)

- 8.0

Cargo Area Dimensions

Cargo Volume to Seat 2 (ft³)

45.1 47.7

Cargo Area Length @ Floor to Seat 4 (in)

NA -

Cargo Volume to Seat 4 (ft³)

NA -

Cargo Box Width @ Wheelhousings (in)

44.9 NA

Cargo Area Length @ Floor to Seat 1 (in)

- TBD - - TBD -

Cargo Volume to Seat 1 (ft³)

85.8 87.0

Cargo Area Length @ Floor to Seat 3 (in)

NA - TBD -

Cargo Volume to Seat 3 (ft³)

NA 18.0

Cargo Area Width @ Beltline (in)

- TBD - - TBD -

Cargo Area Length @ Floor to Console (in)

- TBD - -

Cargo Box (Area) Height (in)

- TBD - NA

Cargo Area Length @ Floor to Seat 2 (in)

- TBD - - TBD -

Brakes

Disc - Rear (Yes or )

Yes Yes

Rear Brake Rotor Diam x Thickness (in)

11.85 x 0.39 13.1 x - TBD -

Brake ABS System

4-Wheel 4-Wheel

Rear Drum Diam x Width (in)

NA NA

Disc - Front (Yes or )

Yes Yes

Front Brake Rotor Diam x Thickness (in)

12.01 x 0.43 13.0 x - TBD -

Brake Type

Pwr Pwr

Drum - Rear (Yes or )

NA NA

Brake ABS System (Second Line)

NA -

Fuel Tank

Fuel Tank Capacity, Approx (gal)

22.5 21.0

Fuel Tank Location

Midship -

Aux Fuel Tank Capacity, Approx (gal)

NA -

Aux Fuel Tank Location

NA -

Steering

Steering Ratio (:1), At Lock

NA -

Turning Diameter - Wall to Wall (ft)

38.4 - TBD -

Steering Ratio (:1), On Center

18.9 -

Turning Diameter - Curb to Curb (ft)

36.8 38.6

Steering Type

Power Rack & Pinion Pwr Rack & Pinion

Lock to Lock Turns (Steering)

- 3.69

Steering Ratio (:1), Overall

- 19.0

Tires

Revolutions/Mile @ 45 mph - Rear

709 -

Spare Tire Size

P245/65R17 Compact

Front Tire Order Code

TC2 NA

Rear Tire Capacity (lbs)

1700 -

Spare Tire Order Code

TC2 NA

Revolutions/Mile @ 45 mph - Front

709 -

Rear Tire Size

P245/65R17 P245/65R17

Revolutions/Mile @ 45 mph - Spare

709 -

Front Tire Capacity (lbs)

1700 -

Rear Tire Order Code

TC2 NA

Spare Tire Capacity (lbs)

1700 -

Front Tire Size

P245/65R17 P245/65R17

Trailering

Wt Distributing Hitch - Max Trailer Wt. (lbs)

3500 3500

Fifth Wheel Hitch - Max Trailer Wt. (lbs)

NA -

Dead Weight Hitch - Max Tongue Wt. (lbs)

350 350

Wt Distributing Hitch - Max Tongue Wt. (lbs)

350 350

Fifth Wheel Hitch - Max Tongue Wt. (lbs)

NA -

Dead Weight Hitch - Max Trailer Wt. (lbs)

3500 3500

Weight Information

Gross Axle Wt Rating - Front (lbs)

2960 -

Gross Combined Wt Rating (lbs)

8500 -

Curb Weight - Front (lbs)

2466 -

Gross Vehicle Weight Rating Cap (lbs)

6180 -

Gross Axle Wt Rating - Rear (lbs)

3400 -

Curb Weight - Rear (lbs)

2140 -

Base Curb Weight (lbs)

- 4310

Wheels

Front Wheel Material

Aluminum Aluminum

Spare Wheel Material

Steel Steel

Front Wheel Size (in)

17 x 7.5 17 x - TBD -

Spare Wheel Size (in)

17 x 7.5 Compact

Rear Wheel Material

Aluminum Aluminum

Rear Wheel Size (in)

17 x 7.5 17 x - TBD -

Cooling System

Total Cooling System Capacity (qts)

7.8 9.93

Electrical

Cold Cranking Amps @ 0° F (2nd)

NA -

Maximum Alternator Watts

1950 -

Cold Cranking Amps @ 0° F (Primary)

650 - TBD -

Maximum Alternator Capacity (amps)

130 - TBD -

Engine

Engine Type

Gas V6 Gas V6

Fuel System

SMPI MPFI

SAE Net Torque @ RPM

254 @ 3700 253 @ 4800

Engine Order Code

- TBD - NA

Displacement

4.0L/245 3.5L/212

Engine Oil Cooler

NA -

SAE Net Horsepower @ RPM

210 @ 5100 250 @ 5700

Mileage

EPA Fuel Economy Est - City (MPG)

13 17

EPA Fuel Economy Est - Hwy (MPG)

19 23

Fuel Economy Est-Combined (MPG)

- 19

Transmission

Transfer Case Power Take Off

NA -

Trans Power Take Off

NA -

Fourth Gear Ratio (:1)

1.00 0.77

Trans Description Cont.

Automatic w/OD Automatic w/OD

Transfer Case Model

BW-4411 -

Sixth Gear Ratio (:1)

NA NA

First Gear Ratio (:1)

3.22 2.70

Transfer Case Gear Ratio (:1), Low

2.48 -

Clutch Size (in)

NA NA

Third Gear Ratio (:1)

1.54 1.07

Trans Type

5 5

Trans PTO Access

NA -

Fifth Gear Ratio (:1)

0.71 0.61

Trans Description Cont. Again

NA NA

Transfer Case Gear Ratio (:1), High

1.00 -

Drivetrain

4-Wheel Drive Front Wheel Drive

Reverse Ratio (:1)

3.07 1.89

Second Gear Ratio (:1)

2.29 1.61

Trans Order Code

- TBD - NA

Final Drive Axle Ratio (:1)

- 4.31

Summary

Vehicle Name

Ford Explorer Honda Pilot

Body Code

NA -

Body Style

4 Door 4 Door

Suspension

Spring Capacity - Front (lbs)

2470 -

Axle Ratio (:1) - Rear

3.55 -

Axle Type - Front

Ford SLA -

Shock Absorber Diameter - Rear (mm)

32.0 - TBD -

Axle Capacity - Front (lbs)

3240 -

Suspension Type - Rear

Independent SLA Multi-link

Stabilizer Bar Diameter - Rear (in)

0.77 1.04

Axle Ratio (:1) - Front

3.55 -

Spring Capacity - Rear (lbs)

2200 -

Shock Absorber Diameter - Front (mm)

32.0 - TBD -

Axle Type - Rear

Ford SLA -

Suspension Type - Front

Independent SLA MacPherson Strut

Stabilizer Bar Diameter - Front (in)

1.34 0.91

Axle Capacity - Rear (lbs)

3600 -

Suspension Type - Front (Cont.)

- NA

Suspension Type - Rear (Cont.)

- w/Trailing Arms

Frame

Frame Type

Ladder -

Doors

Side Door Type

NA -

Emissions

EPA Greenhouse Gas Score

- 5

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