Compare 2009 Dodge Journey vs 2009 Subaru Forester

2009 Dodge Journey
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AWD 4-Door R/T
Style MPG City MPG Hwy Invoice MSRP
Journey AWD 4-Door R/T 15 21 $27,170 $29,335
Journey AWD 4-Door SXT 15 21 $24,563 $26,470
Journey FWD 4-Door R/T 16 21 $25,577 $27,585
Journey FWD 4-Door SE 19 25 $19,517 $20,925
Journey FWD 4-Door SXT 16 21 $22,247 $23,925
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4-Door Automatic X
Style MPG City MPG Hwy Invoice MSRP
Forester (Natl) 4-Door Automatic X 20 26 $20,028 $21,195
Forester (Natl) 4-Door Automatic X L.L. Bean Ed 20 26 $24,330 $25,995
Forester (Natl) 4-Door Automatic X L.L. Bean Ed PZEV 20 26 $24,541 $26,195
Forester (Natl) 4-Door Automatic X L.L. Bean w/Nav 20 26 $25,977 $27,795
Forester (Natl) 4-Door Automatic X L.L. Bean w/Nav PZEV 20 26 $26,188 $27,995
Forester (Natl) 4-Door Automatic X Limited 20 26 $24,355 $25,995
Forester (Natl) 4-Door Automatic X Limited PZEV 20 26 $24,566 $26,195
Forester (Natl) 4-Door Automatic X Limited w/Nav 20 26 $26,002 $27,795
Forester (Natl) 4-Door Automatic X Limited w/Nav PZEV 20 26 $26,213 $27,995
Forester (Natl) 4-Door Automatic X PZEV 20 26 $20,239 $21,395
Forester (Natl) 4-Door Automatic X w/Prem/All-Weather 20 26 $22,471 $23,895
Forester (Natl) 4-Door Automatic X w/Prem/All-Weather PZEV 20 26 $22,682 $24,095
Forester (Natl) 4-Door Automatic X w/Premium Pkg 20 26 $22,104 $23,495
Forester (Natl) 4-Door Automatic X w/Premium Pkg PZEV 20 26 $22,315 $23,695
Forester (Natl) 4-Door Automatic XT 19 24 $24,582 $26,195
Forester (Natl) 4-Door Automatic XT Ltd 19 24 $26,409 $28,195
Forester (Natl) 4-Door Automatic XT Ltd w/Nav 19 24 $28,059 $29,995
Forester (Natl) 4-Door Manual X 20 27 $18,938 $19,995
Forester (Natl) 4-Door Manual X PZEV 20 27 $19,149 $20,195
Forester (Natl) 4-Door Manual X w/Prem/All-Weather 20 27 $21,563 $22,895
Forester (Natl) 4-Door Manual X w/Prem/All-Weather PZEV 20 27 $21,774 $23,095
Forester (Natl) 4-Door Manual X w/Premium Pkg 20 27 $21,196 $22,495
Forester (Natl) 4-Door Manual X w/Premium Pkg PZEV 20 27 $21,407 $22,695

Pricing

Invoice Price

$27,170
$20,028

Manufacturer Suggested Retail Price

$29,335
$21,195

Monthly Payment Estimate

$489 / month
$353 / month

The Car Connection's Take

TCC Rating

8.4
8.0

TCC’s Bottom Line

As a smaller crossover, the Journey's a good alternative to the Saturn Vue and Subaru Forester, maybe even to a Dodge Grand Caravan--just don't pile on the expensive options. It’s significantly improved this year, but the 2009 Subaru Forester remains a unique all-wheel-drive crossover with less power and fewer features, but better carlike handling, than its competition.

TCC Likes

TCC Dislikes

Fuel Economy

City

15 mpg 20 mpg

Highway

21 mpg 26 mpg

Vehicle

EPA Classification

4WD Sport Utility Vehicle 4WD Sport Utility

Interior Dimensions

Third Head Room (in)

NA -

Front Hip Room (in)

53.8 52.9

Passenger Volume (ft³)

125.6 107.6

Third Shoulder Room (in)

NA -

Second Leg Room (in)

33.6 38.0

Front Head Room (in)

40.8 41.6

Second Hip Room (in)

54.4 52.7

Front Shoulder Room (in)

57.5 56.1

Passenger Capacity

5 5

Third Leg Room (in)

NA -

Second Head Room (in)

39.9 40.4

Third Hip Room (in)

NA -

Second Shoulder Room (in)

56.9 55.6

Front Leg Room (in)

40.8 43.1

Exterior Dimensions

Length, Overall (in)

192.4 179.5

Rear Door Opening Width (in)

- TBD - 38.4

Height, Overall (in)

66.6 65.9

Liftover Height (in)

30.8 27.4

Track Width, Rear (in)

62.3 60.2

Wheelbase (in)

113.8 103

Rear Door Opening Height (in)

- TBD - 32.8

Width, Max w/o mirrors (in)

72.2 70.1

Track Width, Front (in)

61.8 60.2

Min Ground Clearance (in)

- TBD - 8.7

Cargo Area Dimensions

Cargo Volume to Seat 3 (ft³)

NA NA

Cargo Box Width @ Wheelhousings (in)

41.4 42.2

Cargo Area Length @ Floor to Seat 2 (in)

- TBD - 37.5

Cargo Volume to Seat 2 (ft³)

37.1 33.5

Cargo Area Width @ Beltline (in)

- TBD - 53.25

Cargo Box (Area) Height (in)

33.1 33.9

Cargo Area Length @ Floor to Seat 1 (in)

- TBD - 61.8

Cargo Volume to Seat 1 (ft³)

67.6 68.3

Cargo Area Length @ Floor to Seat 3 (in)

NA NA

Brakes

Rear Drum Diam x Width (in)

NA NA

Disc - Front (Yes or )

Yes Yes

Front Brake Rotor Diam x Thickness (in)

11.9 x 1.1 11.7 x - TBD -

Drum - Rear (Yes or )

NA NA

Brake ABS System

Yes 4-Wheel

Disc - Rear (Yes or )

Yes Yes

Rear Brake Rotor Diam x Thickness (in)

12.0 x 0.47 11.3 x - TBD -

Brake Type

Pwr Power

Fuel Tank

Fuel Tank Capacity, Approx (gal)

21.1 16.9

Steering

Lock to Lock Turns (Steering)

3.3 3.0

Turning Diameter - Wall to Wall (ft)

- TBD - 37.4

Steering Ratio (:1), Overall

18.6 Variable

Turning Diameter - Curb to Curb (ft)

39.0 34.4

Steering Type

Pwr Rack & Pinion Pwr Rack & Pinion

Tires

Spare Tire Order Code

TBC NA

Rear Tire Size

P225/55R19 P215/65HR16

Rear Tire Order Code

TWV NA

Front Tire Size

P225/55R19 P215/65HR16

Spare Tire Size

T145/80D16 Compact

Front Tire Order Code

TWV NA

Trailering

Dead Weight Hitch - Max Tongue Wt. (lbs)

100 200

Wt Distributing Hitch - Max Tongue Wt. (lbs)

100 200

Dead Weight Hitch - Max Trailer Wt. (lbs)

1000 2400

Wt Distributing Hitch - Max Trailer Wt. (lbs)

1000 2400

Weight Information

Base Curb Weight (lbs)

4119 3300

Wheels

Rear Wheel Size (in)

19 x 7.0 16 x 6.5

Front Wheel Material

Aluminum Steel

Spare Wheel Material

Steel Steel

Front Wheel Size (in)

19 x 7.0 16 x 6.5

Spare Wheel Size (in)

16.0 x 4.0 NA

Rear Wheel Material

Aluminum Steel

Cooling System

Total Cooling System Capacity (qts)

9.8 7.2

Electrical

Cold Cranking Amps @ 0° F (Primary)

525 520

Maximum Alternator Capacity (amps)

140 90

Engine

SAE Net Torque @ RPM

232 @ 4000 170 @ 4400

Engine Order Code

EGF NA

Displacement

3.5L/215 2.5L/150

SAE Net Horsepower @ RPM

235 @ 6400 170 @ 6000

Engine Type

Gas V6 Gas Flat 4-Cyl

Fuel System

SMPI SMPI

Mileage

EPA Fuel Economy Est - Hwy (MPG)

21 26

EPA Fuel Economy Est - City (MPG)

15 20

Fuel Economy Est-Combined (MPG)

17 22

Transmission

Clutch Size (in)

NA NA

Third Gear Ratio (:1)

2.28 1.00

Trans Type

6 4

Drivetrain

All Wheel Drive All Wheel Drive

Fifth Gear Ratio (:1)

1.00 NA

Trans Description Cont. Again

w/Autostick NA

Reverse Ratio (:1)

3.21 2.27

Second Gear Ratio (:1)

2.84 1.55

Trans Order Code

DG2 NA

Final Drive Axle Ratio (:1)

3.43 4.44

Fourth Gear Ratio (:1)

1.57 0.69

Trans Description Cont.

Automatic Automatic w/OD

Sixth Gear Ratio (:1)

0.69 NA

First Gear Ratio (:1)

4.13 2.79

Seventh Gear Ratio (:1)

- NA

Summary

Vehicle Name

Dodge Journey Subaru Forester (Natl)

Body Style

4dr SUV 4 Door

Suspension

Shock Absorber Diameter - Rear (mm)

- TBD - 32

Suspension Type - Front

Independent MacPherson-type

Stabilizer Bar Diameter - Rear (in)

- TBD - 0.67

Suspension Type - Front (Cont.)

MacPherson NA

Shock Absorber Diameter - Front (mm)

- TBD - 32

Stabilizer Bar Diameter - Front (in)

- TBD - 0.83

Suspension Type - Rear

Independent Double wishbone

Suspension Type - Rear (Cont.)

multi-link NA

Emissions

EPA Greenhouse Gas Score

3 6

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