2008 BMW 1-Series vs 2008 Honda S2000

2008 BMW 1-Series

2008 Honda S2000

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2-Door Conv 128i

Style	MPG City	MPG Hwy	Invoice	MSRP
1 Series 2-Door Conv 128i	18	28	$30,450	$33,100
1 Series 2-Door Conv 128i SULEV	18	28	$30,450	$33,100
1 Series 2-Door Conv 135i	17	26	$35,970	$39,100
1 Series 2-Door Coupe 128i	18	28	$26,310	$28,600
1 Series 2-Door Coupe 128i SULEV	18	28	$26,310	$28,600
1 Series 2-Door Coupe 135i	17	25	$32,110	$34,900

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2-Door Conv

Style	MPG City	MPG Hwy	Invoice	MSRP
S2000 2-Door Conv	18	25	$31,069	$34,300
S2000 2-Door Conv CR	18	25	$32,876	$36,300
S2000 2-Door Conv CR w/Air Conditioning	18	25	$33,780	$37,300

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Pricing

Invoice Price

$30,450

$31,069

Manufacturer Suggested Retail Price

$33,100

$34,300

Monthly Payment Estimate

$552 / month

$572 / month

The Car Connection's Take

TCC Rating

8.0

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7.8

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TCC’s Bottom Line

The 2008 BMW 1-Series makes a true Bimmer available for under $30,000 (but just barely).

The 2008 Honda S2000 is a purist's sports car, with the resulting compromises in room and refinement.

TCC Likes

Acceleration of twin-turbo engine
Driver-oriented attitude
Rear-wheel-drive handling

Ultimate grip
High-revving four-cylinder
Sweet-shifting manual gearbox

TCC Dislikes

Styling not as pure as 3-Series
Sized too close to 3-Series
Weight too close to 3-Series

Aging look
Cramped interior
Lack of storage

Fuel Economy

City

18 mpg

Highway

28 mpg

25 mpg

Vehicle

EPA Classification

Subcompact

Two Seater

Interior Dimensions

Second Leg Room (in)

31.3

Front Head Room (in)

38.6

34.6

Passenger Volume (ft³)

- TBD -

44.8

Second Hip Room (in)

- TBD -

Front Shoulder Room (in)

54.0

50.7

Second Head Room (in)

37.0

Passenger Capacity

Second Shoulder Room (in)

42.2

Front Leg Room (in)

41.2

44.3

Front Hip Room (in)

- TBD -

49.8

Exterior Dimensions

Liftover Height (in)

- TBD -

Width, Max w/o mirrors (in)

68.8

68.9

Track Width, Front (in)

58.3

57.9

Min Ground Clearance (in)

- TBD -

Length, Overall (in)

172.2

162.2

Height, Overall (in)

55.6

50.0

Track Width, Rear (in)

59.6

59.4

Wheelbase (in)

104.7

94.5

Cargo Area Dimensions

Trunk Volume (ft³)

9.1 - 10.7

5.0

Brakes

Front Brake Rotor Diam x Thickness (in)

11.8

11.8 x - TBD -

Drum - Rear (Yes or )

Brake ABS System

Yes

4-Wheel

Disc - Rear (Yes or )

Yes

Rear Brake Rotor Diam x Thickness (in)

11.8

11.1 x - TBD -

Brake Type

4-Wheel

Pwr

Rear Drum Diam x Width (in)

Disc - Front (Yes or )

Yes

Fuel Tank

Fuel Tank Capacity, Approx (gal)

13.2

Steering

Turning Diameter - Wall to Wall (ft)

- TBD -

Steering Ratio (:1), Overall

16.0

14.9

Turning Diameter - Curb to Curb (ft)

35.1

35.4

Steering Type

Pwr Rack & Pinion

Lock to Lock Turns (Steering)

- TBD -

2.6

Tires

Rear Tire Size

P205/55R16

P245/40WR17

Rear Tire Order Code

Front Tire Size

P205/55R16

P215/45WR17

Spare Tire Size

Compact

Front Tire Order Code

Spare Tire Order Code

Trailering

Dead Weight Hitch - Max Tongue Wt. (lbs)

- TBD -

Wt Distributing Hitch - Max Tongue Wt. (lbs)

Dead Weight Hitch - Max Trailer Wt. (lbs)

- TBD -

Wt Distributing Hitch - Max Trailer Wt. (lbs)

Weight Information

Base Curb Weight (lbs)

3494

2864

Wheels

Front Wheel Material

Aluminum

Spare Wheel Material

Steel

Front Wheel Size (in)

16 x 7

17 x 7.0

Spare Wheel Size (in)

Compact

Rear Wheel Material

Aluminum

Rear Wheel Size (in)

16 x 7

17 x 8.5

Cooling System

Total Cooling System Capacity (qts)

- TBD -

8.0

Electrical

Cold Cranking Amps @ 0° F (Primary)

- TBD -

Maximum Alternator Capacity (amps)

- TBD -

Engine

Displacement

3.0L/183

2.2L/132

SAE Net Horsepower @ RPM

230 @ 6500

237 @ 7800

Engine Type

Gas I6

Gas I4

Fuel System

- TBD -

MPFI

SAE Net Torque @ RPM

200 @ 2750

162 @ 6800

Engine Order Code

Mileage

EPA Fuel Economy Est - City (MPG)

EPA Fuel Economy Est - Hwy (MPG)

Transmission

Trans Type

Fifth Gear Ratio (:1)

1.00

0.94

Trans Description Cont. Again

Drivetrain

Rear Wheel Drive

Reverse Ratio (:1)

3.94

2.80

Second Gear Ratio (:1)

2.46

2.05

Trans Order Code

Final Drive Axle Ratio (:1)

3.23

4.10

Fourth Gear Ratio (:1)

1.23

1.16

Trans Description Cont.

Manual

Sixth Gear Ratio (:1)

0.85

0.76

First Gear Ratio (:1)

4.32

3.13

Clutch Size (in)

- TBD -

Third Gear Ratio (:1)

1.66

1.48

Summary

Vehicle Name

BMW 1 Series

Honda S2000

Body Style

2 Door Convertible

Suspension

Stabilizer Bar Diameter - Rear (in)

- TBD -

1.00

Suspension Type - Front (Cont.)

Strut Type

Double-wishbone

Shock Absorber Diameter - Front (mm)

- TBD -

Stabilizer Bar Diameter - Front (in)

- TBD -

1.07

Suspension Type - Rear

Multi-link

Independent

Suspension Type - Rear (Cont.)

Double-wishbone

Shock Absorber Diameter - Rear (mm)

- TBD -

Suspension Type - Front

Double-Pivot

Independent

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