• ModernMode avatar ModernMode Posted: 11/2/2012 6:20pm PDT

    And the bubble bursts.

  • Dan Akerson's Empty Skull avatar Dan Akerson's Empty Skull Posted: 11/3/2012 11:34am PDT

    The rodents who buy those crapboxes will continue to snap them up without pause.

  • jetsetblue avatar jetsetblue Posted: 11/16/2012 6:03pm PST

    I recently purchased a 2013 Kia Sorento. First, let me say that I really like the car. I came will a lot of terrific features for the price. I did plenty of research on cars in this class, including Consumer Reports.We have put on about 1300 miles so far. The first thing I noticed after we purchased the car was when using our GPS, which is very accurate, with our other vehicles the speedometer were dead on with the GPS. Not the Sorento. It was reading 2 MPH faster than what the actual speed was.Um? So we took a long trip of about 400 miles to see family. After driving about 150 miles, the MPG was averaging 28.6. I was a little concerned.EPA expected 32 mph, but we know thats generally 2 miles high..okay 30 mph is not bad. continued

  • jetsetblue avatar jetsetblue Posted: 11/16/2012 6:32pm PST

    We filled up at about 300 miles into the trip. This time I decided to top off the tank, reset the computer again, and write down the mileage and figure the MPG the old fashion way. What I found was that on a relatively flat terrain, two average size people, doing the limit of 70 mph, cruise control set,we were really getting 26.4 mpg.On several tries too. Crap! That is a far cry for the rated 32 mpg highway, 22 mpg city, 25 mpg combined. The computer has been reading at least two miles higher per gallon than actual. That means 6 miles per gallon highway less than advertised. That is terrible. I checked my city driving in the same fashion, which is mostly highway. Computer shows 20.5 mpg, math says 18 mph. Now I am mad and depressed. continu

  • jetsetblue avatar jetsetblue Posted: 11/16/2012 6:54pm PST

    I purchased this 2013 Kia Sorento for the fuel economy, and that's not happening. This is just fraudulant. Ah, two miles higher on the speedo. Causes you to drive two slower, inceasing fuel economy. Sneaky. I took it to the dealer. They gave me some story about break in period and 5w-20 oil after break in and increased fuel mileage. Well, the break in oil is 5w-20 too. 5w-20 oil is thinner oil. Mnufactures increase their mpg, because it is thinner and provides less sticky friction than heavier weight oils like 30 or 40 weight oils. At best,it may increase in 1 to 1.5 mpg. They want me to wait 3000 miles and come back. That will be to late, I will thoroughly own this thing then. I came home this evening and was looking for Fuel reviews.

  • jetsetblue avatar jetsetblue Posted: 11/16/2012 7:13pm PST

    Well, there it is. Kia Hundai looking at a 774 million dollar class action suit due to misrepresenting EPA fuel estimates, and possible criminal prosecution. Perfect....All I wanted was good fuel economy. By the way, we purchasethe more efficient 4l-GDI engine for and extra $2000.00. Beware and be careful. I alos found out they had misrepresenting the fuel on a few of their 2012 models and carried it over to their 2013 model. And, they say it was a mistake. Fat chance. They knew. Kia has a fuel reimbursement plan for their erroneous errors. They will reimburse a percentage in the difference of mileage you getting to what they promised and issue you a debt card and credit one a year. The catch is you,have to go to the dealer every 90 days

  • jetsetblue avatar jetsetblue Posted: 11/16/2012 7:18pm PST

    to get the credit, for life. That is a GIANT INCONVENIENCE.! So,I hope this helps you. I guess I am going to jump on the Class action suit Band Wagon. I wonder how many miles to the gallon it will get? KIA owners, watch you mail for the class notice. I would think it's coming soon. Todd 11-16-2012

  • jetsetblue avatar jetsetblue Posted: 11/16/2012 7:25pm PST

    P.S. Sorry about the typing errors. It's late and i just wanted to get it done.

  • Mikey41 avatar Mikey41 Posted: 11/18/2012 5:23am PST

    Hi! everyone,
    In 2007 I got me a New Kia Rio5. Nice little car. Gas mileage said 50mpg Wow!!was I happy a fuel efficient car. I never made more then 42mpg even new. Disappointed big time! Never again will I trust Kia or Hyundai!!! I wish I could be compensated someway or another. Any suggestion?

  • D S Leon avatar D S Leon Posted: 2/4/2013 3:41pm PST

    Purchased a 2012 KIA Optima Turbo end of May 2012. Posted gas milage Canadian was up to 49 mpg (bigger gallon than US). Didn't expect that, but thought 40 would be reasonable. First problem, black soot on back bumper and tailpipe, mentioned it at first oil change, nothing done. Readout on odometer inaccurate, but 33 mpg CDN around city (figured out manually). Came down to Phoenix on interstate, same milage. Have been in contact with two dealers in AZ, KIA Canada agreed to change injectors, done before Christmas, long trip to Las Vegas to check it out, IT IS WORSE! (27 mpg CDN - 22 mpg US) Anyone can see it is burning too rich but unless something comes up on computer, there is no problem. Mechanics who solve problems don't exist.

  • toroel300 avatar toroel300 Posted: 2/16/2013 9:05pm PST

    hey i bought the 2013 kia soretno 2.4 gdi lx and the paper said 21 24 30 and my average with me is in the 18 to highest 19 mpg i tried to apply for the claim and says after nov 2 2012 they dont qualify well if thats the case send out new window sheets with the proper mpg i turned in my 05 chrysler 300 3.5 to save more in gas but it end up the same with a guy said its falls advertisment and when im in a red light the car seems to shake i put it in neutral and it slightly stops i need all the help i could get i love the car but the gas mileage is really putting me down thanks..

  • GarlandCary avatar GarlandCary Posted: 3/10/2013 6:52pm PDT

    Just ditched a 2013 Hyundai Elantra for a 2013 Honda Accord Sport. Why? Because the larger, more powerful, more comfortable, better handling and quieter Accord gets better REAL WORLD (OBSERVED) mileage than the Elantra running the exact same routes and speeds - both in the city and the highway: Honda 27/38 (ECON engaged) vs Hyundai 22/33 (Active ECO engaged - which has NO impact on fuel economy, but does make the car sluggish as hell).

    Oh yeah, and the Hyundai's dash started creaking and rattling within the first month. After six months, it sounded like the six year old Honda Civic I replaced it with.

    And that was the end of my curiosity about the alleged great strides Hyundai/Kia have made with their latest generation of "products."

  • fb_644811936 avatar Paul Posted: 5/16/2013 6:22pm PDT

    I'm getting 20mpg with my 2013 Hyundai Elantra in Canada.

    Can I return my car or get compensation for this? They still have the advertisements of 30-35mpg here.