• Steve Posted: 12/10/2009 7:32am PST

    That's funny... "Saturn didn't bring anything to the table"? Wtf do u call an "economical" fuel efficent cheap car then ? Chevy ? Lmao and while wea still on the subject what do you call the "3rd door" (ex. 2001 2002 Saturn Sc1 & Sc2 3 door) (ion quad 4 dr) a new inovation in sports car design rite up until like 5 years ago when mazda rx8's 3dr was introduced they were the only manafacturer so again I ask you do u really believe Saturn didn't bring anything to the table in almost 20 years I only named a few....get at me I could go on forever ! Ill defend a dying breed....Saturn's there for me EVERYDAY w/o failure least I can do is return the favor.....avid saturn supporter since 2003.....y drive a 3000+ lbs. Civic with a 1.7 ltr wen u culd drive a plastic 2300lbs car with a 1.9 ?

  • Theresa Posted: 10/5/2009 4:59pm PDT

    This breaks my heart! I too am on my fourth Saturn - three of them are still in my drive way. For those of you who own one, you know what we are losing. I've owned a Lincoln Navigator and Honda Civic and I can tell you that I love the Saturns that replaced those cars way more. And they did bring something unique - a better, honest way of doing business! I welcom turns and twists if it will keep them in business. I'm looking forward to buying my next Saturn!

  • Mr. E Posted: 10/2/2009 3:17pm PDT

    @Mr D: Penske is "clueless"? Hmmmm.
    Why would GM agree to supply a competitor with vehicles beyond the 2-year agreement? Why would ANY carmaker agree to supply a competitor with cars in the thinnest-margin, most competitive market in the world--and one that's hardly growing compared to China, India, and the other BRIC countries?
    Going through your list of candidates:
    - Mitsubishi: crappy cars & struggling on their own
    - Suzuki: OK cars, struggling on their own
    - Isuzu: Out of the car game in the U.S.
    - VW: Already in the US market, doesn't need a competitor
    - Chinese: No likelihood of being able to make cars good enough to sell in the US in less than 5 years, say all the analysts
    - Arabs: Name me an Arab car company?
    The only logical maker to supply Saturn with cars was either Samsung-Nissan (the one he chose), which Ghosn quashed 'cause it posed competition for Nissan, or PSA (Peugeot-Citroen). Everyone else is already in the US market.
    You are right: Fritz is no friend of Saturn. But why should he go out of his way to help a competitor?
    I fully believe that Ghosn killed the deal because (a) it would have been a competitor; and (b) it may not have been a good use of funds for Samsung versus things like expansion into China.

  • Mr. D Posted: 10/1/2009 9:21am PDT

    GM should have known better than to fool with Penske. He is clueless, including putting his eggs into one basket. If he was rejected by PAG, why did he not seek to extend the projected vehicle supply agreement with GM beyond the two year period even for a different mix of GM vehicles. This would not have been unheard of since AM General supplies H2's to GM for Hummer. Penske could have even negotiated with GM and Toyota for the NUMMI plant, which could have continued turning out Toyotas and supplying the Vibe for Saturn instead of closing the plant down. There are no plans to stop making Corollas or its derivatives. Penske could have negotiated with GM to rebadge the Pontiac G8 and continue getting supplied with them as Saturns. Penske could have also linked up with other suppliers such as GM/Daewoo, GM/Opel/Vauxhall, Mitsubishi, Suzuki, or maybe even VW/SEAT. At this point, I hope that the Saturn dealer network finds another partner, such as Mitsubishi, Suzuki, Isuzu, VW, or the Chinese or Arabs to execute a stock based spinoff from GM to continue Saturn operations. Obviously GM does not want the competition (i.e., Fritz is no friend of Saturn).

  • Bill Burke Posted: 10/1/2009 7:47am PDT

    This deal never made sense. Obamanomics at work. More fallout to follow. Idiots!

  • javajunkie Posted: 10/1/2009 4:50am PDT

    I think it is a publicity stunt as corny as that sounds. I don't think talks would have advanced this far without coming to fruition. As carguys says, it ain't over 'til it's over. Stay tuned, I guess.

  • Bronko Posted: 10/1/2009 2:29am PDT

    No doubt, these are "interesting" times in the automotive industry - I'm sure there will be similar moves by other manufacturers in the upcoming days.

  • carguy Posted: 9/30/2009 11:28pm PDT

    it aint over till its over.. this one is going to have some twists and turnshu

  • greedo Posted: 9/30/2009 8:34pm PDT

    I hate to say it, but it's probably a good thing that Saturn is going away. The market just doesn't need as many brands or as much supply anymore, and Saturn didn't bring anything unique to the table. GM could do anything it did with Saturn through Chevy just as easily.

  • Damien Thomas Posted: 9/30/2009 6:07pm PDT

    This is a sad day, I was looking forward to some of the new models being hyped like the Renaults.

  • Darrell Posted: 9/30/2009 5:59pm PDT

    Although I have never owned a Saturn product, I feel strangely sad at the demise of a brand with obviously deep owner loyalty. Probably because in 1965 I learned of the forthcoming end of a brand I had owned twice: Studebaker. There are many opinions on the quality of that brand, but I was served well by my Lark and Daytona. The history of the company was interesting; in a different way, so is that of Saturn. Sorry Roger P. could not secure that "next move" manufacturer! For me, it seems like 1966 all over again!

  • AutoInsider Posted: 9/30/2009 5:15pm PDT

    No surprise here. It's good. Penske doesn't buy an anvil, and GM gets more competition off the road.

  • Vivian Pons Posted: 9/30/2009 5:07pm PDT

    This is extremely bad news! I am on my fourth Saturn. Once I experienced Saturn, and the honest way in which the dealership did business, I never wanted to buy anything else. I'm hoping something can still be done to save Saturn.

  • AutoBoy Posted: 9/30/2009 4:39pm PDT

    Sad day. Obviously reflects a compilation of decades of poor decisions/execution/luck. Just terrible news for the dealer network in particular. Hoping they land on their feet as quickly as possible.

  • UnaskedFamily Posted: 9/30/2009 4:38pm PDT

    so what do I do about my "extended dealer warranty" if the dealer is going away?

  • Gmo Posted: 9/30/2009 4:24pm PDT

    I didnt even know Saturn still made cars. Guess I won't miss them