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2011 Honda CR-Z: Three Test Drives, Three Editors' Opinions, Five Questions

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It's not all that often that three different High Gear Media editors test-drive the same model within a few weeks of each other, but that's what happened with the 2011 Honda CR-Z two-seat hybrid sports coupe.

First, editorial director Marty Padgett got our first drive in June and wrote it up for our sister site Green Car Reports.

Then, last week, Bengt Halvorson drove the 2011 CR-Z in Portland, covering it here on The Car Connection, and discussing whether 38 miles per gallon can realistically be considered "disappointing".

Finally, we drove it over a four-day weekend and offered our assessment yesterday on Green Car Reports again.

But since the drive is fresh in mind for all three of us, we thought we'd put together a quick roundtable to compare and contrast our impressions.

Overall, what three adjectives describe the 2011 Honda CR-Z?

Marty Padgett: Uninspiring, overstyled, misdirected.

Bengt Halvorson: Sporty in appearance, frugal in execution, compromised overall.

John Voelcker: Attractive (exterior), surprisingly nice (inside), fun (to drive).

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What surprised you about the CR-Z?

MP: That hard driving could actually push mileage below 30 mpg. At these levels, I think I'd rather have a Jetta TDI that handles better and to me, looks better.

BH: Especially in Sport mode, it feels much sportier than the first wave of reviews had led me to suspect. I also suspected that driving the CR-Z in a spirited way would return much less than the 38 mpg I observed. 

JV: How painful the seat were not only for the small of my back, but also my passenger's. We both seriously questioned whether we could own the car based solely on the seats.

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What are the biggest pluses and the worst minuses to buying a 2011 CR-Z?

MP: The big plus is having something that only a very few people will also choose. Exclusivity, which is probably not what they're aiming for, is likely what they'll get. The worst minus has to be the near-lack of a really sporting feel in anything but the six-speed-manual version, in Sport mode. It's the only way it makes any sense.

BH: Plus and minus: That those not in the know tend to see the CR-Z as a pocket-rocket. During the course of just a few days, I had someone in an E36 BMW M3 and a 1990s Toyota Celica ask me about the car and wondering how fast it is. Both seemed flat-out surprised to hear it's a hybrid, and not really all that fast.

JV: The plus is that it's small, maneuverable, economical (in the grand scheme of things), and offers a six-speed. The minus is that it's a two-seater, which dooms it to small volumes in the U.S. market no matter how good it might be.

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How does the Honda CR-Z compare to the 2010 Honda Insight five-door hatchback built on the same basic platform?

MP: They're much closer than their body styles indicate. I'd rather have the Insight, frankly, and use the extra seats for occasional guests.

BH: With a wheelbase that's several inches shorter than the Insight, it feels a slight bit more maneuverable but busier and bouncier on the highway. And overall, it seems calibrated in some respects to feel a little sportier. The six-speed manual gearbox (not offered in the Insight) makes a HUGE difference in driving feel -- it brings out the finer attributes of Honda's IMA system and makes it feel a bit like a turbocharger.

JV: I agree with Bengt about the six-speed. While I really didn't like the Insight all that much, for its uninspiring performance and cheap feeling, the CR-Z fixes those problems--at the expense of two seats.

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2011 Honda CR-Z

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Who's the likely buyer of the 2011 Honda CR-Z?

MP: Confused greens who never drove the original CRX.

BH: Older-middle-age male buyers, in San Francisco/Portland/Seattle, who wanta a sporty-looking commuter coupe. 

JV: Second- or third-car buyers who want something small, thrifty, and stylish, and don't want just another econobox. Plus, I suspect, at least a handful of tuners who aim to produce highly modified CR-Zs with little relationship to the Honda-spec original.

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Comments (5)
  1. Let's see, Insight, Crosstour, now the CR-Z.
    Yep, that's three swings and they are all whiffers.
    Honda strikes out again!
     
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  2. If my Insight Classic was totalled, the CR-Z would be the closest thing I could get to replace it. But I'm getting 72-75 mpg now (not too difficult due to this very hot summer), and my Insight's 0-60 time is within a second of the CR-Z's. I wish someone would put some sticky tires on the 1850-lb 92-hp Insight Classic and race it against the 2700-lb 122-hp CR-Z on a road course. The outcome would be very interesting.
     
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  3. Sad how poorly Honda is executing these days. They let the excitement run out on the excellent S2000 by not keeping it fresh, so they cancel it. Then they release a 2700lb 2 seat FWD coupe with a truck rear suspension, cheapo front suspension and 1980's level power. Huh? big mistakes. Even if it got the needed 50mpg to a legit gas sipper, it still wouldn't make a lot of sense with that suspension design. They are following toyota to where there is no excitement in the lineup and will act surprised when the average buyer age approaches that of buick.
     
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  4. Hey Matt, the original CR-X had a beam axle as well, as did the original VW GTi (and for a couple generations after that). It's all in how you tune it.
     
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  5. Honda would not have created so much controversy if the Honda president had not stated that with the canceling of the s2000 and NSX successor that he had something special for the enthusiasts and that was the Cr-Z and then compounded the mistake by promoting how "sporty" the CR-Z was going to be (engineers driving lotuses). The problem is the CR-Z is clearly falls far short in performance to be considered a sports car or objectively speaking even sporty (at best its handles better than the insight and prius (which are hardly the bench marks for handling) and Honda just gave it too little power to move the 2700 lb. with any kind of acceleration that I would expect from a sporty car. Perhaps Honda should have just called it the Insight Coupe because truthfully that's all the CR-Z really is. Putting the hybrid system in this car was major mistake by Honda which was compounded by Honda's stubborn insistance that it had to be only a hybrid. Honda would have been able to sell a lot more if it had offered a entry level gasoline engine version and an SI version with perhaps the Civic Si motor.
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