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4-Door Wagon Manual STD
Style MPG City MPG Hwy Invoice MSRP
4-Door Wagon Manual STD 26 33 $14,346 $15,510
4-Door Wagon Automatic STD 25 31 $15,086 $16,310
4-Door Wagon Manual XR 26 33 $15,373 $16,990
4-Door Wagon Automatic XR 25 31 $16,126 $17,820
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4-Door Manual X
Style MPG City MPG Hwy Invoice MSRP
4-Door Manual X 20 27 $18,938 $19,995
4-Door Manual PZEV X 20 27 $19,149 $20,195
4-Door Automatic X 20 26 $20,028 $21,195
4-Door Automatic PZEV X 20 26 $20,239 $21,395
4-Door Manual X w/Premium Pkg 20 27 $21,196 $22,495
4-Door Manual PZEV X w/Premium Pkg 20 27 $21,407 $22,695
4-Door Manual X w/Prem/All-Weather 20 27 $21,563 $22,895
4-Door Manual PZEV X w/Prem/All-Weather 20 27 $21,774 $23,095
4-Door Automatic X w/Premium Pkg 20 26 $22,104 $23,495
4-Door AutomaticPZEV X w/Premium Pkg 20 26 $22,315 $23,695
4-Door Automatic X w/Prem/All-Weather 20 26 $22,471 $23,895
4-Door Automatic PZEV X w/Prem/All-Weather 20 26 $22,682 $24,095
4-Door Automatic X L.L. Bean Ed 20 26 $24,330 $25,995
4-Door Automatic X Limited 20 26 $24,355 $25,995
4-Door Automatic PZEV X L.L. Bean Ed 20 26 $24,541 $26,195
4-Door Automatic PZEV X Limited 20 26 $24,566 $26,195
4-Door Automatic XT 19 24 $24,582 $26,195
4-Door Automatic X L.L. Bean w/Nav 20 26 $25,977 $27,795
4-Door Automatic X Limited w/Nav 20 26 $26,002 $27,795
4-Door Automatic PZEV X L.L. Bean w/Nav 20 26 $26,188 $27,995
4-Door Automatic PZEV X Limited w/Nav 20 26 $26,213 $27,995
4-Door Automatic XT Ltd 19 24 $26,409 $28,195
4-Door Automatic XT Ltd w/Nav 19 24 $28,059 $29,995
Pricing
Invoice Price
$14,346
$18,938
Manufacturer Suggested Retail Price
$15,510
$19,995
Monthly Payment Estimate
$259 / month
$333 / month
The Car Connection's Take
TCC Rating
6.2
8.0
TCC’s Bottom Line
The 2008 Toyota Matrix still has one of the best combinations of utility and fuel efficiency, though it lags in safety features. It’s significantly improved this year, but the 2009 Subaru Forester remains a unique all-wheel-drive crossover with less power and fewer features, but better carlike handling, than its competition.
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Fuel Economy
City
26 mpg 20 mpg
Highway
33 mpg 27 mpg
Vehicle
EPA Classification
Small Station Wagon 4WD Sport Utility
Interior Dimensions
Second Head Room (in)
39.8 40.4
Passenger Capacity
5 5
Second Shoulder Room (in)
52.6 55.6
Front Leg Room (in)
41.8 43.1
Front Hip Room (in)
51.7 52.9
Second Leg Room (in)
36.3 38.0
Front Head Room (in)
40.6 41.6
Passenger Volume (ft³)
96.2 107.6
Second Hip Room (in)
47.8 52.7
Front Shoulder Room (in)
53.2 56.1
Exterior Dimensions
Length, Overall (in)
171.3 179.5
Height, Overall (in)
60.6 65.9
Track Width, Rear (in)
58.9 60.2
Wheelbase (in)
102.4 103
Liftover Height (in)
- TBD - 27.4
Width, Max w/o mirrors (in)
69.9 70.1
Track Width, Front (in)
59.6 60.2
Min Ground Clearance (in)
5.9 8.7
Rear Door Opening Width (in)
- 38.4
Rear Door Opening Height (in)
- 32.8
Cargo Area Dimensions
Cargo Volume with Rear Seat Up (ft³)
21.8 -
Cargo Volume with Rear Seat Down (ft³)
53.2 -
Cargo Volume to Seat 1 (ft³)
- 68.3
Cargo Area Length @ Floor to Seat 3 (in)
- NA
Cargo Volume to Seat 3 (ft³)
- NA
Cargo Box Width @ Wheelhousings (in)
- 42.2
Cargo Area Length @ Floor to Seat 2 (in)
- 37.5
Cargo Volume to Seat 2 (ft³)
- 33.5
Cargo Area Width @ Beltline (in)
- 53.25
Cargo Box (Area) Height (in)
- 33.9
Cargo Area Length @ Floor to Seat 1 (in)
- 61.8
Brakes
Disc - Rear (Yes or )
NA Yes
Rear Brake Rotor Diam x Thickness (in)
NA 11.3 x - TBD -
Brake Type
Pwr Power
Rear Drum Diam x Width (in)
9.0 x - TBD - NA
Disc - Front (Yes or )
Yes Yes
Front Brake Rotor Diam x Thickness (in)
10.8 x - TBD - 11.7 x - TBD -
Drum - Rear (Yes or )
Yes NA
Brake ABS System
NA 4-Wheel
Fuel Tank
Fuel Tank Capacity, Approx (gal)
13.2 16.9
Steering
Turning Diameter - Curb to Curb (ft)
36.8 34.4
Steering Type
Pwr rack & pinion Pwr Rack & Pinion
Lock to Lock Turns (Steering)
3.36 3.0
Turning Diameter - Wall to Wall (ft)
- TBD - 37.4
Steering Ratio (:1), Overall
19.5 Variable
Tires
Front Tire Size
P205/55R16 P215/65HR16
Spare Tire Size
Compact Compact
Front Tire Order Code
NA NA
Spare Tire Order Code
NA NA
Rear Tire Size
P205/55R16 P215/65HR16
Rear Tire Order Code
NA NA
Trailering
Dead Weight Hitch - Max Trailer Wt. (lbs)
1500 2400
Wt Distributing Hitch - Max Trailer Wt. (lbs)
NA 2400
Dead Weight Hitch - Max Tongue Wt. (lbs)
150 200
Wt Distributing Hitch - Max Tongue Wt. (lbs)
NA 200
Weight Information
Base Curb Weight (lbs)
2679 3250
Wheels
Rear Wheel Material
Steel Steel
Rear Wheel Size (in)
16 x 6.5 16 x 6.5
Front Wheel Material
Steel Steel
Spare Wheel Material
- TBD - Steel
Front Wheel Size (in)
16 x 6.5 16 x 6.5
Spare Wheel Size (in)
Compact NA
Cooling System
Total Cooling System Capacity (qts)
6.9 7.3
Electrical
Maximum Alternator Capacity (amps)
- TBD - 90
Cold Cranking Amps @ 0° F (Primary)
- TBD - 356
Engine
Engine Type
Gas I4 Gas Flat 4-Cyl
Fuel System
SFI SMPI
SAE Net Torque @ RPM
122 @ 4200 170 @ 4400
Engine Order Code
NA NA
Displacement
1.8L/109 2.5L/150
SAE Net Horsepower @ RPM
126 @ 6000 170 @ 6000
Mileage
EPA Fuel Economy Est - Hwy (MPG)
33 27
EPA Fuel Economy Est - City (MPG)
26 20
Fuel Economy Est-Combined (MPG)
- 22
Transmission
Final Drive Axle Ratio (:1)
3.94 4.11
Fourth Gear Ratio (:1)
0.89 1.09
Trans Description Cont.
Manual w/OD Manual w/OD
Sixth Gear Ratio (:1)
NA NA
First Gear Ratio (:1)
3.17 3.45
Clutch Size (in)
- TBD - 8.86
Third Gear Ratio (:1)
1.31 1.45
Trans Type
5 5
Fifth Gear Ratio (:1)
0.73 0.78
Trans Description Cont. Again
NA NA
Drivetrain
Front Wheel Drive All Wheel Drive
Reverse Ratio (:1)
3.25 3.33
Second Gear Ratio (:1)
1.90 2.06
Trans Order Code
NA NA
Seventh Gear Ratio (:1)
- NA
Summary
Body Style
5 Door Wagon 4 Door
Vehicle Name
Toyota Matrix Subaru Forester (Natl)
Suspension
Stabilizer Bar Diameter - Front (in)
0.95 0.83
Suspension Type - Rear
Torsion Beam Double wishbone
Suspension Type - Rear (Cont.)
w/Stabilizer Bar NA
Shock Absorber Diameter - Rear (mm)
- TBD - 32
Suspension Type - Front
MacPherson Strut MacPherson-type
Stabilizer Bar Diameter - Rear (in)
0.79 0.67
Suspension Type - Front (Cont.)
w/Stabilizer Bar NA
Shock Absorber Diameter - Front (mm)
- TBD - 32
Emissions
EPA Greenhouse Gas Score
- 6

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