Compare 2009 Subaru Forester vs 2009 Dodge Journey

2009 Subaru Forester
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4-Door Manual X
Style MPG City MPG Hwy Invoice MSRP
4-Door Manual X 20 27 $18,938 $19,995
4-Door Manual PZEV X 20 27 $19,149 $20,195
4-Door Automatic X 20 26 $20,028 $21,195
4-Door Automatic PZEV X 20 26 $20,239 $21,395
4-Door Manual X w/Premium Pkg 20 27 $21,196 $22,495
4-Door Manual PZEV X w/Premium Pkg 20 27 $21,407 $22,695
4-Door Manual X w/Prem/All-Weather 20 27 $21,563 $22,895
4-Door Manual PZEV X w/Prem/All-Weather 20 27 $21,774 $23,095
4-Door Automatic X w/Premium Pkg 20 26 $22,104 $23,495
4-Door AutomaticPZEV X w/Premium Pkg 20 26 $22,315 $23,695
4-Door Automatic X w/Prem/All-Weather 20 26 $22,471 $23,895
4-Door Automatic PZEV X w/Prem/All-Weather 20 26 $22,682 $24,095
4-Door Automatic X L.L. Bean Ed 20 26 $24,330 $25,995
4-Door Automatic X Limited 20 26 $24,355 $25,995
4-Door Automatic PZEV X L.L. Bean Ed 20 26 $24,541 $26,195
4-Door Automatic PZEV X Limited 20 26 $24,566 $26,195
4-Door Automatic XT 19 24 $24,582 $26,195
4-Door Automatic X L.L. Bean w/Nav 20 26 $25,977 $27,795
4-Door Automatic X Limited w/Nav 20 26 $26,002 $27,795
4-Door Automatic PZEV X L.L. Bean w/Nav 20 26 $26,188 $27,995
4-Door Automatic PZEV X Limited w/Nav 20 26 $26,213 $27,995
4-Door Automatic XT Ltd 19 24 $26,409 $28,195
4-Door Automatic XT Ltd w/Nav 19 24 $28,059 $29,995
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FWD 4-Door SE
Style MPG City MPG Hwy Invoice MSRP
FWD 4-Door SE 19 25 $19,517 $20,925
FWD 4-Door SXT 16 21 $22,247 $23,925
AWD 4-Door SXT 15 21 $24,563 $26,470
FWD 4-Door R/T 16 21 $25,577 $27,585
AWD 4-Door R/T 15 21 $27,170 $29,335
Pricing
Invoice Price
$18,938
$19,517
Manufacturer Suggested Retail Price
$19,995
$20,925
Monthly Payment Estimate
$333 / month
$349 / month
The Car Connection's Take
TCC Rating
8.0
8.4
TCC’s Bottom Line
It’s significantly improved this year, but the 2009 Subaru Forester remains a unique all-wheel-drive crossover with less power and fewer features, but better carlike handling, than its competition. As a smaller crossover, the Journey's a good alternative to the Saturn Vue and Subaru Forester, maybe even to a Dodge Grand Caravan--just don't pile on the expensive options.
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Fuel Economy
City
20 mpg 19 mpg
Highway
27 mpg 25 mpg
Vehicle
EPA Classification
4WD Sport Utility 2WD Sport Utility Vehicle
Interior Dimensions
Second Shoulder Room (in)
55.6 56.9
Front Leg Room (in)
43.1 40.8
Front Hip Room (in)
52.9 53.8
Passenger Volume (ft³)
107.6 125.6
Second Leg Room (in)
38.0 33.6
Front Head Room (in)
41.6 40.8
Second Hip Room (in)
52.7 54.4
Front Shoulder Room (in)
56.1 57.5
Passenger Capacity
5 5
Second Head Room (in)
40.4 39.9
Third Hip Room (in)
- NA
Third Head Room (in)
- NA
Third Shoulder Room (in)
- NA
Third Leg Room (in)
- NA
Exterior Dimensions
Rear Door Opening Width (in)
38.4 - TBD -
Height, Overall (in)
65.9 66.6
Liftover Height (in)
27.4 30.8
Track Width, Rear (in)
60.2 62.3
Wheelbase (in)
103 113.8
Rear Door Opening Height (in)
32.8 - TBD -
Width, Max w/o mirrors (in)
70.1 72.2
Track Width, Front (in)
60.2 61.8
Min Ground Clearance (in)
8.7 - TBD -
Length, Overall (in)
179.5 192.4
Cargo Area Dimensions
Cargo Box Width @ Wheelhousings (in)
42.2 41.4
Cargo Area Length @ Floor to Seat 2 (in)
37.5 - TBD -
Cargo Volume to Seat 2 (ft³)
33.5 37.1
Cargo Area Width @ Beltline (in)
53.25 - TBD -
Cargo Box (Area) Height (in)
33.9 33.1
Cargo Area Length @ Floor to Seat 1 (in)
61.8 - TBD -
Cargo Volume to Seat 1 (ft³)
68.3 67.6
Cargo Area Length @ Floor to Seat 3 (in)
NA NA
Cargo Volume to Seat 3 (ft³)
NA NA
Brakes
Rear Brake Rotor Diam x Thickness (in)
11.3 x - TBD - 12.0 x 0.47
Brake Type
Power Pwr
Rear Drum Diam x Width (in)
NA NA
Disc - Front (Yes or )
Yes Yes
Front Brake Rotor Diam x Thickness (in)
11.7 x - TBD - 11.9 x 1.1
Drum - Rear (Yes or )
NA NA
Brake ABS System
4-Wheel Yes
Disc - Rear (Yes or )
Yes Yes
Fuel Tank
Fuel Tank Capacity, Approx (gal)
16.9 20.5
Steering
Turning Diameter - Curb to Curb (ft)
34.4 38.5
Steering Type
Pwr Rack & Pinion Pwr Rack & Pinion
Lock to Lock Turns (Steering)
3.0 3.3
Turning Diameter - Wall to Wall (ft)
37.4 - TBD -
Steering Ratio (:1), Overall
Variable 18.6
Tires
Spare Tire Size
Compact T145/80D16
Front Tire Order Code
NA TRD
Spare Tire Order Code
NA TBC
Rear Tire Size
P215/65HR16 P225/70R16
Rear Tire Order Code
NA TRD
Front Tire Size
P215/65HR16 P225/70R16
Trailering
Wt Distributing Hitch - Max Trailer Wt. (lbs)
2400 1000
Dead Weight Hitch - Max Tongue Wt. (lbs)
200 100
Wt Distributing Hitch - Max Tongue Wt. (lbs)
200 100
Dead Weight Hitch - Max Trailer Wt. (lbs)
2400 1000
Weight Information
Base Curb Weight (lbs)
3250 3692
Wheels
Rear Wheel Material
Steel Steel
Rear Wheel Size (in)
16 x 6.5 16 x 6.5
Front Wheel Material
Steel Steel
Spare Wheel Material
Steel Steel
Front Wheel Size (in)
16 x 6.5 16 x 6.5
Spare Wheel Size (in)
NA 16.0 x 4.0
Cooling System
Total Cooling System Capacity (qts)
7.3 7.9
Electrical
Maximum Alternator Capacity (amps)
90 160
Cold Cranking Amps @ 0° F (Primary)
356 525
Engine
Fuel System
SMPI SMPI
SAE Net Torque @ RPM
170 @ 4400 166 @ 4400
Engine Order Code
NA ED3
Displacement
2.5L/150 2.4L/144
SAE Net Horsepower @ RPM
170 @ 6000 173 @ 6000
Engine Type
Gas Flat 4-Cyl Gas I4
Mileage
Fuel Economy Est-Combined (MPG)
22 21
EPA Fuel Economy Est - Hwy (MPG)
27 25
EPA Fuel Economy Est - City (MPG)
20 19
Transmission
Fourth Gear Ratio (:1)
1.09 0.69
Trans Description Cont.
Manual w/OD Automatic
Sixth Gear Ratio (:1)
NA NA
First Gear Ratio (:1)
3.45 2.84
Clutch Size (in)
8.86 NA
Third Gear Ratio (:1)
1.45 1.00
Trans Type
5 4
Drivetrain
All Wheel Drive Front Wheel Drive
Seventh Gear Ratio (:1)
NA -
Fifth Gear Ratio (:1)
0.78 1.45 up/1.57 down
Trans Description Cont. Again
NA NA
Reverse Ratio (:1)
3.33 2.21
Second Gear Ratio (:1)
2.06 1.57
Trans Order Code
NA DFF
Final Drive Axle Ratio (:1)
4.11 4.28
Summary
Vehicle Name
Subaru Forester (Natl) Dodge Journey
Body Style
4 Door 4dr SUV
Suspension
Suspension Type - Rear (Cont.)
NA multi-link
Shock Absorber Diameter - Rear (mm)
32 - TBD -
Suspension Type - Front
MacPherson-type Independent
Stabilizer Bar Diameter - Rear (in)
0.67 - TBD -
Suspension Type - Front (Cont.)
NA MacPherson
Shock Absorber Diameter - Front (mm)
32 - TBD -
Stabilizer Bar Diameter - Front (in)
0.83 - TBD -
Suspension Type - Rear
Double wishbone Independent
Emissions
EPA Greenhouse Gas Score
6 - TBD -

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