• fb_788614742 avatar Ronald Posted: 2/5/2013 11:51pm PST

    I thought my C-MAX would be a Prius Killer? As a cross over buyer I feel deceived. I want to support US companies and US jobs. What was Ford thinking when they published 47/ 47 estimates? I would have been ok with low 40's but low 28-33 is not even in the ballpark. Mark my words there will be no fix for this. Ford should offer to take the cars back or offer cash compensation to offset the mileage claims. The EPA estimates will have to be adjusted to the mid 30's and sell the cars as is. My dealer's sales and service department were ok at the beginning of the complaint process, but now have turned hostile and un-professional.

    Ronald Kramer
    Yankee Ford Customer
    South Portland, Maine

  • fb_601634786 avatar David Posted: 1/2/2013 6:25am PST

    The EPA conducts it's milage tests under what it calls "ideal conditions". Problem is two fold: 1): Every driver has a different driving style (in some cases VASTLY different) and 2:) not evey driver faces the same driving conditions and situations every day. The solution I feel is to develope a better way or system of factors to determine these numbers.

  • fb_1343991086 avatar Joe Posted: 12/28/2012 5:33pm PST

    I've read several articles about the Ford CMax and Fusions not getting the claimed 47mpg gas mileage that is EPA ratings. I have a CMax Hybrid for over 7k miles and HAVE on several occasions gotten over the 47mpg. The key is you need to be going under 50-55 mph in steady moving traffic with slow and go conditions. I did at least 3 trips that got over 47mpg each about 35-45 miles. I reset my odometer every time I fill up and just happened to see the mileage at the end of my trip. I even took a picture of a couple of trips and have proof. If you drive normally such as 75-85 on highways, you'll never get better than about 40 with my overall average 37.5 over about 7400 miles. Don't forget that the 47 is probably with no accessories turned on.

  • shocker avatar shocker Posted: 12/29/2012 7:03pm PST

    Sorry Joe, but the 47 that Ford advertises is from the tests Ford conducts using the EPA guidlines. If the EPA decides to verify the results that FORD got in the tests then they can and will do so which is the case now. This is why all the news about it is continued and the lawsuits are starting because the EPA has not confirmed and announced the results of EPA verification of Ford tests.

  • Dan Akerson's Empty Skull avatar Dan Akerson's Empty Skull Posted: 12/28/2012 8:45am PST

    If Ford can run their cars through the government tests and deliver the results displayed on their window sticker -- then the issue is with the test and not the cars. In Hyundai's case they couldn't -- so their numbers were fudged. Big difference.

  • richard avatar Richard Posted: 12/28/2012 12:27pm PST

    Dan: It's not entirely clear that Ford has done so. If there's an EPA audit, though -- as there was with Hyundai and Kia -- we may find out.

  • Pickboz avatar Pickboz Posted: 12/27/2012 2:01pm PST

    What a waist of time and energy! Do people really belive that kind of publicity? Only if you believe that the earth is flat and that the sun goes around it! And if they are misleaded by the advertising the cars stil do better than the others. And if they engage a lawsuits against Ford they will have to o with the others. Sometime I really suprise by the none sens of some matters, but it must be me, how can all these men can be wrong!