• fb_776771928 avatar Adam Posted: 11/30/2012 11:05am PST

    Does the hybrid still have the battery pack stacked vertically behind the 2 rear seats so you can't fold down the rear seats at all? -The huge decrease in storage capacity made the Civic Hybrid an absolute non-starter for me with the 2012 model. (2012 LX owner; formerly a 2007 LX owner)

  • bengt avatar Bengt Posted: 11/30/2012 8:54pm PST

    Unfortunately packaging isn't going to change to that extent. But we do expect that the next-generation small Honda hybrids will be very different, with much-improved mileage.
    http://www.thecarconnection.com/news/1080516_2015-honda-fit-powertrain-preview-drive

  • fb_629637578 avatar Daniel Posted: 11/29/2012 3:16pm PST

    DARN! This sucks. No powertrain changes! I was hoping for Honda's "Earth Dreams" power train! Finally Direct Injection with dual mode engines that can act as regular OTTO cycle when you want power and Atkinson cycle when you want hybrid like MPG out of a regular engine! CVT transmission.

    But NO, Honda decided to do an 'emergency refresh', yet the changes are not worth it. Style changes, suspension tweaks, safety technology and body structure improvement are all great but that doesn't translate to real world value all that much.

    You'd be smart to wait for the 2014 year of the Civic. That is when they new powertrains will come out (hopefully).

  • MikeJ avatar MikeJ Posted: 11/30/2012 6:01pm PST

    Or just stay away from Honda all together.. There excelleration is crap, and there kinda (super) ugly.. Lol. And everyone I know that has a Honda hates it

  • fb_776771928 avatar Adam Posted: 11/30/2012 11:10am PST

    Many sites have stated that 2015 is the year that Honda will roll out the Earth Dreams power train. I'm waiting for it as well. I've got my 2012 LX currently; we're going to be a single car family until the Earth Dreams platform Civic gets here; which I'm expecting will be 2015.

    I'm really hoping to see the city MPG numbers go up with the earth dreams platform -I'm pretty excited what Honda can do with the platform if they start actually adopting engine technology developed in the last decade or two! ;-)

    The increase in ride quality and a reduction in noise are certainly welcomed changes for 2013. (And getting rid of the ugly 2012 grill and rear...)

    Anyone know if real alloy wheels are finally standard in 2013?

  • bengt avatar Bengt Posted: 11/30/2012 8:49pm PST

    Adam, the former base DX model has been dropped, but alloy wheels aren't standard on the new LX base. Get the EX or EX-L and alloy wheels are standard.