• fb_1001015277 avatar John Posted: 11/20/2012 5:21am PST

    Great to hear of these improvements.

  • Brian_Henderson avatar Brian_Henderson Posted: 11/20/2012 9:13am PST

    For a minor update, these 2013 LEAF updates for Japan are very exciting news!

    Seems like every area of the power-train got a tweak.
    - better regenerative breaking
    - B(rake) shift mode from D(rive) similar to iMiEV
    - re-stacking power components (inverter, charger), no bump & more space in boot
    - heat pump vs heater to save electric power
    - 40% reduction use of dysprosium (Dy), a rare earth element in motor magnates
    - weight savings in battery from new module packing for cells

    Didn't see 6.6 kW charging update, but with everything else; cost & space may have been a deciding factor. Maybe a future option?

    This all adds up … guessing 83 mile (73) range & 112 eMPG (99) … hopefully North America model will see similar updates?

  • fb_1559222512 avatar Xiaolong Posted: 11/20/2012 1:20pm PST

    Weight saving, good.
    Better regen, great.
    offering leather, great.
    lower price, great.
    Heat Pump, great.

    Battery protection?
    faster charging?
    Great leasing rate?

  • rborba avatar rborba Posted: 11/20/2012 6:30am PST

    Sounds good but the lack of a 6.6 kW charger is very disappointing. Hope they address that in in the units built in North America...

  • surfingslovak avatar surfingslovak Posted: 11/20/2012 7:38am PST

    Ricardo, the 6.6 charger was always announced as an option. It won't be installed by default, not even in the US.

  • gsleaf avatar gsleaf Posted: 11/20/2012 7:54am PST

    And it sounds like it's something that will be released in the US but not Japan.

  • rborba avatar rborba Posted: 11/20/2012 7:59am PST

    George: Do you have a link? All announcements I've seen so far are very vague, far from official. This is something very important to be left out of a such comprehensive press release.

  • john_v avatar John Posted: 11/20/2012 8:19am PST

    @George: A 6.6-kilowatt charger for the 2013 Leaf has been discussed by Nissan Americas executives, but not officially announced.

  • fb_1470388190 avatar David Posted: 11/20/2012 10:34am PST

    stop stop STOP!!

    this is a "Japanese Market" LEAF and it will NEVER be available for sale in the US. sure we can look at these improvements and get a decent idea of improvement for the American Market LEAF but to say that this is how it is is waaay off base

  • fb_645759207 avatar Kelly Posted: 11/20/2012 12:33pm PST

    Yes, this is kind of odd in a way for Nissan to be making this announcement and having no information available to U.S. consumers. Would be VERY strange to build a billion dollar plus plant in the U.S. and have the first product out of it be an "outdated" or lesser version of the car that is built in Japan. What would they think would be the reaction of U.S. consumers? "You know, in Japan we build a version that will go farther and they are lighter and have a more efficient battery, but the one we build for you in the States in that brand new factory is the older technology car that won't go as far as the Japan built car."

    These guys are not stupid, so I'm hoping this is not the scenario they have planned. Would be a real PR mistake.

  • vdiv avatar vdiv Posted: 11/20/2012 1:22pm PST

    This happens all the time. For example the European Volt and Ampera have features not found in the US/Canadian versions. Many of those features are regulation driven, as mentioned by Nissan NA (i.e. rear fog lights), but some are driven by competition and owner expectations. Conversely the American market models are cheaper than those overseas.

  • Brian_Henderson avatar Brian_Henderson Posted: 11/20/2012 3:33pm PST

    We're just a couple weeks away from LEAF's 2nd birthday on Dec 11th.
    http://www.greencarreports.com/news/1052256_first-2011-nissan-leaf-to-be-delivered-to-customer-on-dec-11

    Also, the LA Auto Show coming up Nov 30 - Dec 9th, which is traditionally an event where green-vehicle news is announced for North America.

    Timing of transition from 2011-2012 model to 2013+ model gets a bit more interesting for US market as Symetra is slated to start production in 2013. With local production, the opportunity for regionalized options increases.

    Just gotta be patient, we'll know soon enough. :)

  • Brian_Henderson avatar Brian_Henderson Posted: 11/20/2012 3:58pm PST

    Oops, meant "Smyrna", Tennessee assembly plant … (overlooked an autocorrect)

    re: 3.3 –> 6.6 kW charging option; a good ref: "and we'll raise that in a year or so."
    http://www.greencarreports.com/news/1056343_breaking-nissan-leaf-to-get-faster-charger-in-a-year-or-so

  • john_v avatar John Posted: 11/20/2012 3:28pm PST

    @David (and also @Kelly): Nissan Americas will be making its own announcement, later on, about the 2013 Leaf that will be sold here.

    However, most of the changes in the Japanese version (especially to the power electronics) will be incorporated into the North American version.

    We published spy photos of the downmarket version that will be offered in the U.S. here:
    http://www.greencarreports.com/news/1079716_2013-nissan-leaf-spy-shots-of-new-less-expensive-model

  • fb_645759207 avatar Kelly Posted: 11/20/2012 8:50am PST

    Really disappointing if these improvements are not incorporated into the U.S. version.

  • carphen avatar carphen Posted: 11/21/2012 8:20am PST

    my local paper reports in addition a "A smaller lighter recharging nozzle"... I wonder what that means?

  • fb_100000909608430 avatar Brian Posted: 12/18/2012 1:57pm PST

    These improvements sound so exciting, but what I've been hoping for most is the 6.6kw charger, an upgrade that would be vital for the LEAF, for any consumer, a difference between a 4 and 8 hour full charge is a lot! If the Ford Focus EV is already equipped with a 6.6kw charger, it'll be naive of Nissan to not include it, but I can't find any confirmation of that anywhere!
    All of the previous comments are convincing. Some said that the new charger is an option and not worth officially pointing out, others say that these updates are only for the JDM LEAF.

    The new charger has been one of the most anticipated updates of the LEAF since March as I can remember. This update could probably well make a significant sales milestone for the LEAF