• USAFANG67 avatar USAFANG67 Posted: 7/27/2012 7:24pm PDT

    I agree as to what kind of reaction this will on bodyshop and insurance rates.
    To add to this will be the how much this will drive up the cost of the vehicle.
    This makes me wonder if Ford has really thought this through or is this just a knee-jerk reaction in a desperate attempt to meeting CAFE Standards?

  • fb_804195206 avatar Mike Posted: 7/28/2012 11:46am PDT

    I have no doubt that Ford has thought it through, but meeting CAFE standards is exactly what's driving this. I can't see any other reason for it.

  • USAFANG67 avatar USAFANG67 Posted: 7/28/2012 1:24pm PDT

    I can't imagine that this will not have a negative effect on sales all things consider like total cost of ownership.

  • Tybeedawg avatar Tybeedawg Posted: 7/27/2012 3:29pm PDT

    As I've said before, this b;ind need to keep the F-150 on top is the heap will one day fail Ford as times change so do people's needs. A Ranger-sized truck with a 3L diesel engine (which Ford builds and sells in 180 countries) would do a lot more for the economy needs of Ford and would at least keep folks in the Ford family. Now, with the perceived flimsiness of a partial aluminum truck, new sales may go to Toyota, Nissan and even the wretched Chevy Colorado.

  • wrenchead avatar wrenchead Posted: 7/27/2012 2:36pm PDT

    Have you leaned on Jag, an Audi, a Porsche?
    If we keep thinking old is better we would still have wooden wheels
    Aluminum stampings are work hardened and a more resistant to soft blows.
    The shear forces in an accident will cause more tears, but that's what insurance is for. Replace panels not repair.

  • fr8bil avatar fr8bil Posted: 7/27/2012 10:23am PDT

    Body Shops REJOICE ! OMG ! An aluminum bodied pickup...what the hell were they thinking ? Lean on it the wrong way and you will have a dent. Wait until word of this get's out among those who actually USE a pickup for what it is intended. Insurance rates will go thru the roof on these things !

  • fb_804195206 avatar Mike Posted: 7/28/2012 11:44am PDT

    Body shops, in general, will not rejoice. Most of them don't have the facilities needed to repair aluminum.

    Aluminum does dent and crumple very easily ... when it's a soda can. One of the main reasons for using aluminum in vehicles (or anything else) is that it has a higher strength to weight ratio than steel. If you take two sheets of metal, one of aluminum and one of steel, with the exact same strength, you'll find that the aluminum is much thicker than the steel, but still much lighter.

    Ford isn't doing this so they can make a more easily dented truck. That would be stupid. They're doing it so they can meet fuel efficiency targets. The reason to switch certain steel parts to aluminum is to have the same strength with less weight.

  • bkre avatar bkre Posted: 7/27/2012 12:22pm PDT

    The F150 has has an aluminum hood for years in case you didn't know.