• CDspeed avatar CDspeed Posted: 4/9/2012 3:37pm PDT

    I hope all goes well, the Atlantic looks like an updated slimmer Karma. I'd look at buying an Atlantic it seems to address all the things I didn't like about the Karma and if it's faster and more efficient it could be the car I was hoping for when I looked at the Karma in the first place.

  • fb_1001015277 avatar John Posted: 4/9/2012 6:49pm PDT

    Honestly, I think Fisker Corp. should be put on some sort of death watch.

    Sure the vehicles are beautiful, but I don't see them selling 15,000 per year, not with all the troubles they have been having.

    Additionally, the Karma is the least efficient electric vehicle sold and gets appallingly low gas mileage in extend range mode in a small impractical car. Really not what the market wants.

  • Roy_H avatar Roy_H Posted: 4/11/2012 7:46pm PDT

    I think 15k/yr is wildly optimistic, but the Atlantic should reasonably sell twice that. I too have a hard time believing that the Karma will ever be profitable, but it was necessary to progress on to the Atlantic. Fisker's fortunes will ride on the success of the Atlantic, which won't even be on the market for more than a year. Far to soon to call for a death watch.

  • fb_100000005296979 avatar John Posted: 4/9/2012 12:23pm PDT

    The future of the electric car is in no way dependent upon the fortunes of Fisker, if for no other obvious reason than that Fisker isn't building electric cars : their system uses the gas engine even when its battery is fully charged. The are tied to what will be , at best, a footnote in EV history - the range extended hybrid car : a Volt that one would actually like to be seen in. Electric cars are being developed elsewhere.

  • CDspeed avatar CDspeed Posted: 4/9/2012 1:09pm PDT

    I agree.

  • NorCalKarma avatar NorCalKarma Posted: 4/9/2012 5:15pm PDT

    Not sure where you are getting your info, but on the Karma the gas engine doesn't operate unless the battery range goes to zero or I specifically choose to engage the ICE. Plug-in hybrids like the Karma and the Volt are a necessity until Level 3 fast charging infrastructure becomes ubiquitous. Otherwise you can't drive from San Jose to Sacramento and back in your EV, like I did a couple of Sundays ago in my Karma.

  • fb_1001015277 avatar John Posted: 4/9/2012 6:30pm PDT

    I think Kent's rant is about "sport mode"