• Mr. Nuts avatar Mr. Nuts Posted: 8/27/2011 8:09am PDT

    US traffic courts are like some kangaroo court in a corrupt third world country. Guilty before proven innocent. Guilty with no proof other than a cop as a witness, etc. It's a joke.

  • fb_1491948054 avatar Kurt Posted: 8/27/2011 10:54am PDT

    @Mr. Nuts, at least we still have the ability to hire an attorney and plead not guilty.

  • fb_507702898 avatar fb_507702898 Posted: 12/22/2011 4:25pm PST

    When one is issued a ticket, law enforcement officers advise them that their signature is "NOT an admission of guilt, it is simply stating that they have received the citation and understand their options that are outlined on the back of the ticket."
    If they pay the fine, then yes, that is an admission of guilt.
    Get your facts straight. Oh, wait, you're "Nuts"....

  • JG4321 avatar JG4321 Posted: 2/28/2013 12:56pm PST

    I agree completely. Traffic court seems more like a fundraising source rsther than how it applies to actual public safety

  • tramse1 avatar tramse1 Posted: 8/26/2011 5:25pm PDT

    Oh, that's easy. Flashing one's headlights is simply another form of non-threatening speech, protected under the U. S. Constitution and certainly not abridged by any state's statutes. That case needs to go to court.

  • governorof1 avatar governorof1 Posted: 6/5/2012 8:36am PDT

    Yes good point but,who can afford a lawyer?Our legal system is broken.Look at the heath care bill of 2008.2700 pages of rules and laws.This is not a free country any more,sorry to say but it is true.

  • JG4321 avatar JG4321 Posted: 2/28/2013 12:33pm PST

    Comparing free speach, flashing headlights, the cost of a lawyer, the legal system which you claim is broken and the 2009 health care bill is quite a stretch. That would be a non-sequiter. Free speach and the health care bill are unrelated, other than they are both the law of the land. I guess you can rationalize anything if you choose to ignore facts

  • geebo avatar geebo Posted: 5/14/2013 1:47pm PDT

    You missed the point, J Gilbert. The guy basically pointed out that existing laws are complex and costs are through the roof. He saying why add something like this to an already screwed up system. Now go rationalize that. :)

  • fr8bil avatar fr8bil Posted: 8/27/2011 11:20am PDT

    Good for you, go get 'em Eric ! I'm surprised they didn't try to Cite you for interfering with Police. That's been tried and thrown out in other States. Sue for false arrest while you are at it. The State Statute they Cited on the ticket has no application here and it appears you have a valid legal precedent to call upon. Teach the cops they can't screw every motorist that comes along with their made-up, phony charges. People have the right to know when they are under Police surveillance.

  • fb_1001015277 avatar John Posted: 8/27/2011 1:10pm PDT

    Wonder if we could just hang a big sign out the windows that says "Speed Trap ahead."
    John C. Briggs

  • fb_1491948054 avatar Kurt Posted: 8/28/2011 8:19am PDT

    @John, if you drive into Lawtey, FL, you'll see a billboard on the edge of town warning you of speed traps ahead. Tickets are a significant source of revenue for the town.

  • Anne2112 avatar Anne2112 Posted: 9/14/2011 12:30pm PDT

    LOL!!! This is great!!! They'd find a way to still ticket us...

  • Robert Trip avatar Robert Trip Posted: 8/28/2011 10:07am PDT

    Wait a minute! What about all the vehicles that turn their turn signals to indicate their intentions to change lane from the driving lane to the passing lane and the vehicle on the passing lane behind them blinks their lights to let them know that they can go on ahead and move into their lane? This happens thousands of times everyday. This is something that we've learned, for years, from semi-tractor trailer drivers. It's a courtesy thing.

  • mikeymike avatar mikeymike Posted: 8/27/2011 7:56pm PDT

    I HATE speedtraps, but I think the dude could also have been charged with obstruction of justice or interfering with an officer blah blah.

  • cracovian avatar cracovian Posted: 8/28/2011 3:31pm PDT

    I love speed traps and I hate mofo speeders. We used to have one at every corner in the old days - now I hardly see cops anywhere. They should be catching more idiots blowing by me @ 90 MPH in 55-65 zones instead of raising property taxes each year...

  • fb_1491948054 avatar Kurt Posted: 8/29/2011 10:39am PDT

    @cracovian, I'm not advocating dangerous driving, but here in FL the biggest threat to highway safety is distracted driving. Neither handheld cell phone use nor texting while driving is illegal here, so when you roll up on someone driving 55 in a 65, chances are good there's a cell phone glued to their ear. Worse, the "keep right, pass left" law in unenforced, meaning that most drivers head right for the left lane and park there, at or below the speed limit. It actually forces other drivers to speed, pass on the right, and generally engage in other unsafe driving habits.

  • governorof1 avatar governorof1 Posted: 6/5/2012 8:40am PDT

    Everyone is in such a big hurry any more.The #1 worst time to drive is the first of the month.Everyone is getting that Giverment check.That and there are way too many people on the road now a days.Bring back the rail roads!

  • JG4321 avatar JG4321 Posted: 2/28/2013 1:09pm PST

    governorof1: How exactly does getting a check (government or otherwise) correlate to speeding? some checks are mailed in the middle of the month. Some people get paid every week. Some people win the lottery. Does that mean they go extra fast?

  • fb_1510606196 avatar Carl Posted: 8/27/2011 11:45am PDT

    I am somewhere in between. Free speech - yeah! Interfering with law enforcement - what's in it for Eric? Is he "protecting" the other guys who are speeders? Unless he knows that the police are crooked Eric ought to back off.

  • Merlin13 avatar Merlin13 Posted: 8/29/2011 9:20am PDT

    I got out of a similar charge when the officer could not prove that I wasn't flashing my headlights in an effort to get a road-hog to move over. I contended that I never saw a speed trap and was only trying to wake up a road-hog in a effort to get him to move aside.

  • fastfinger avatar fastfinger Posted: 8/30/2011 7:33pm PDT

    Indeed there was a stopped vehicle and the alert driver was warning oncoming traffic of that dangerous situation. So you can't have freedom of expression in Florida. What was the officer doing - other than looking at writing profit producing tickets. Park a unmanned car if you can to scare drivers. Florida needs to examine more people who drive WITHOUT insurance and without license and get the real trouble makers off the road. Florida has highest insurance because of these lax driving enforcements.

  • fb_1491948054 avatar Kurt Posted: 8/31/2011 3:44am PDT

    @fastfinger, as a fellow Florida resident, I agree 100%. I'd also like to see the state bring back vehicle inspections - the number of blatantly unsafe vehicles goes up every year.

  • fb_100001187694506 avatar Pittsville Posted: 9/14/2011 9:01am PDT

    The sanctions against the highway patrol should be severe and massive. The clear fact that they are knowingly thumbing their noses at the 2005 court order should not be taken lightly. It's a clear case of criminal contempt of court on the part of the police. They only way to get their attention is to fine them, and fine them heavily while sending them away with a stern warning that their training officers will face severe criminal contempt penalites if they continue to advise officers to ignore the court order.

  • fb_1491948054 avatar Kurt Posted: 9/14/2011 10:07am PDT

    @Pittsville Farm, I think it was Mark Twain who said "never attribute to malice what can be explained by mere incompetence," and I believe that was the case here. I'm sure the troopers involved never even heard of the 2005 court ruling, especially if they went through the police academy prior to 2005.

    Police don't always know all of the current laws, which is why lawyers remain in such high demand.

  • fb_100000933402354 avatar Sandra Posted: 1/8/2012 9:59am PST

    Other than lost revenue, this is a win-win situation for officers. A ticket is issued to punish people for traffic violations, including speeding, and to dissuade them from future speeding. A citizen flashing his lights has the same results, with no risk to officers or to the car and passengers stopped on the side of the highway. It also allows traffic to flow at a normal pace without the additional hazard of "rubber-neckers".
    Thank you, Mr. Campbell, for a safe and sane approach in helping others maintain safe speeds.

  • fb_1445065451 avatar Kelles Posted: 5/31/2012 8:42am PDT

    just a case of a cop that got angry because a lowly civillian was trying to undermine his his effort to ticket speeders.......in some states radar detectors are illegal..but police use them to trap you....best rule of thumb here is DONT SPEED OVER 5 MILES OF POSTED LIMIT AND YOU WILL NEVER HAVE A PROBLEM......SPEED KILLS...

  • Ernst avatar Ernst Posted: 5/31/2012 10:04am PDT

    @Kelles, if speed kills, I'd have been dead long ago. Lack of driver training, coupled with inattention and an over-estimation of one's skills behind the wheel are what kills.

  • governorof1 avatar governorof1 Posted: 6/5/2012 8:19am PDT

    Too many drivers think they are at home in their easy chair.The lack of high school drivers ed can share the blame.School only wants to teach liberal politics and not life saving hands on the wheel education.

  • JG4321 avatar JG4321 Posted: 2/28/2013 1:14pm PST

    governorof1: I didn't know drivers ed was part of the school system. I took drivers ed at my own expense which was at the school, but not taxpayer funded. And please explain how teaching liberal or conservative politics relates to driver ability. By your statement one would conclude that no non-liberal has ever been ticketed or caused or had an accident. You seem to be an oracle of misinformation.

  • fb_100001639871539 avatar fb_100001639871539 Posted: 9/18/2012 9:19pm PDT

    Kurt, you left out capabilities of the car being driven. I will brake faster and out maneuver most cars on the road that are driving at 55MPH while I am driving at 85. The car I drive has much larger brakes and much better suspension than most cars.

    You are so right. Speed does not kill. The incompetence of the driver and the condition of their vehicle is what causes crashes. Never has there been documented a case of speed causing any crash without the interjection of one or both of the above circumstances which then couples another violation with the speed to cause the crash.

    And no folks, they are NOT accidents as we so quickly rationalize. An accident must be accompanied by an action not purposely initiated!

  • governorof1 avatar governorof1 Posted: 6/5/2012 8:29am PDT

    Speed traps are every where you go.It is a true money maker.Because I drive a semi truck I do not wear a seat belt in my car.I would rather get a ticket for a seat belt than a speeding ticket.Or I should say I would rather not get a ticket at all.If anyone thinks this is bad news than try driving a big truck for a living,it is not easy.The fine for driving a C.M.V.when using a cell phone is $2,700.00 Now if your employer knows you are not using hands free cell phone as you are talking to them than the employer is fined $11,000.00 Isn't that nice?Anyone driving a car and law enforcement are excluded from this D.O.T. law.Adolf Hitler would be proud.

  • fb_100001639871539 avatar fb_100001639871539 Posted: 9/18/2012 9:26pm PDT

    Actually it is nice. We need laws to cut the nonsensical inattention that you drivers initiate while talking and driving. I have had too many cars and semi's cut me off due to inattention while using their cell phones! Maybe ridiculously high fines for ALL drivers, such as you mention, would finally put a dent into the bloodbath that drivers with cellphones are causing!

    BTW, I am with you 100% regarding seat belts. I drove for 20 years before the government decided that they had to protect me from me. Cellphone legislation on the other hand protects me from YOU!

  • JG4321 avatar JG4321 Posted: 2/28/2013 1:16pm PST

    You finally made a valid point, relevant to the topic at hand. Congratulations.

  • pattonll3 avatar pattonll3 Posted: 3/24/2013 4:40pm PDT

    Don't know if it qualifies as a warning of speed trap ahead, several years ago. I lived on a road the entrance to the place I lived in just past a blind curve, it was a favorite spot for a speed trap anyway, because I would be turning left into the area I lived in shortly after I cleared the curve I always slowed down and probably saved several people who were behind me a ticket as there was a police car there quite often. Also turned out that there was a drug lab in the place I lived in at the time and it also may well have been a police stakeout or most likely both, caught onto drug lab and handed out tickets all at same time.