• jeep avatar jeep Posted: 8/12/2011 4:50pm PDT

    The difference is, the Volt looks good and the Prius looks like something out of a bad dream. Moreover, the people that drive them are, to say the least, ODD!

  • fb_82100996 avatar Richard Posted: 8/13/2011 10:17am PDT

    The Volt looks like a 1990s Olds. The Prius is embarrassingly flaccid. Good steps in the right direction, just odd. I'll stick with the Fusion Hybrid, myself.

  • scford58 avatar scford58 Posted: 8/12/2011 7:39am PDT

    The trend continues for C/R - put down American cars at all cost all the time. I have learned not to depend on the once dependable C/R. I wonder how much $ they recieve for thier efforts?

  • cracovian avatar cracovian Posted: 8/12/2011 8:06am PDT

    Did you just wake up from a decade-long sleep, buddy? CR had never recommended more American cars as they do today since some of them rightfully finally deserve it now. Volt is a good car, just not a cheap car for the purpose that it was built. Can it save you money? No, unless you get it for free.

  • cracovian avatar cracovian Posted: 8/11/2011 1:24pm PDT

    You don't have to build a better mousetrap - just a cheaper one. Until then, it doesn't make sense economically. You can get a better and much cheaper car for longer commutes (not just a Prius) and for shorter commutes there's the LEAF. As much as anyone would like to justify the Volt, it just doesn't make much sense compared to alternatives and in typical 2+ car households.

  • fb_1491948054 avatar Kurt Posted: 8/12/2011 4:40am PDT

    @cracovian, you point out the danger associated with any new technology. I agree that the Volt has a narrow range of ideal customers, but if you have a short commute and family out of state, it's the only car (aside from the Fisker Karma) that gives you the benefits of a both an electric car and a gasoline one.

    I hope that GM (and other manufacturers) continue to pursue serial hybrid technology. I think it's got promise, and I'd hate to see it die with the Volt and Karma.

  • cracovian avatar cracovian Posted: 8/12/2011 6:11am PDT

    I like the Volt and I like the Corvette even more. I don't want those cars to die and there will still be a lot of unjustified and a bit of justified demand to keep them flowing and selling at close to MSRP for a few years. All I'm saying is that it doesn't make economical sense (the point of this and CR articles) to 95% of the population, just like the Corvette. You will never "save" money in either one.

    I'm getting my LEAF in November and I'm trying to justify the purchase too - unless our gas prices shoot up through the roof, I doubt I will ever break even...

  • fb_100000816901009 avatar fb_100000816901009 Posted: 8/12/2011 10:45am PDT

    C/R fails to mention the 70 mile or 35 mile commuting cost for a 40 mpg gasoline only car (becoming prevalent now) is considerably less than either Volt or Prius. And when you factor in the lower purchase price of the 40 mpg vehicle you realize that Prius/Volt owners don't buy them for economic reasons but to enhance their image as being "green". Neither can be economically justified. C?r's own numbers prove it.

  • fb_1792677598 avatar George Posted: 8/12/2011 11:27am PDT

    The Volt is considerably more luxury inside that many of the other options that get 40 mpg on gas, IMHO after 6500+ miles in ours. It has more of an Audi/BMW road feel (we have owned both in the past), so for driving comparisons, perhaps a BMW 3-series or Audi A4 might be a more reasonable comparison. The BMW and Audi would cost upwards towards $40k, so the Volt in that context does not seem all that super-expensive, particularly with the Federal $7500 credit.

    We get more like 40-44 miles EV range here in Sacramento, so that extends the operating economy a bit from the CR experience and for MANY areas of the country, and here in West Sacramento, we have charging costs of $ .06/kw, so that is much less too.

  • fb_1792677598 avatar George Posted: 8/12/2011 11:30am PDT

    Further, many Leaf and Volt owners already have solar photovoltaic power system on their homes; we do. Even with charging BOTH our Leaf and our Volt, we will have a ZERO annual electric use charge this year. For our Volt, we will use about $450 for total fuel costs, from our longer "road trips," but 19/20 times we take the car out, it will always run as an EV.

  • cracovian avatar cracovian Posted: 8/12/2011 12:55pm PDT

    George - You and a few others seem to be missing a point... Yes, it's cheap to drive, it may be even free to run but how much did you pay for your electrics and how much for the panels? Did you do it all to save money? Really? Is this a route you'd recommend to a person who 'really' needs to save cash? Not everyone has $70K to drop on toys just to claim how green and wonderful they are and how BMW and Audi is similar in terms of quality, so the cost is justified... Step off the clouds, man.

  • Papa Rotzi avatar Papa Rotzi Posted: 8/12/2011 11:58am PDT

    Well, I love to DRIVE automobiles, and none of the electric/hybrids today (other than Tesla) offers much "fun". I will stick to my BMW 128i until something better comes along that fits my criteria. I thought the Honda CR-Z or the newest Lexus hybrid might have addressed this, but nope. Slow and poor dynamics = no sale. A average about 23mpg in town and a little over 31mpg on the highway, so it's not like I'm burning up the worlds hydrocarbon deposits single-handedly. Guess I will sit tight for a while longer while this market matures. A CR-Z or the 200h with a high-torque diesel and 8-speed DSG type trans would be the ticket for me.

  • fb_1491948054 avatar Kurt Posted: 8/12/2011 12:20pm PDT

    @Drew, have you had a chance to drive a Volt yet? It's not a sport sedan by any stretch of the imagination, but it is surprisingly entertaining to drive. It's much more entertaining than the Lexus CT200h or the Honda CR-Z, at least in my opinion.

  • fb_100000351085371 avatar Richard Joash Posted: 8/13/2011 7:16am PDT

    It's all thanks to Consumer Reports for making a neutral Chevrolet Volt report