• JKD Posted: 9/9/2010 11:31am PDT

    "...with the six-speed, the Odyssey can get to 60 mph in 8.8 seconds, according to Honda. That's technically a slight bit faster than the Sienna V-6."
    How is it faster if Sienna takes 7.9 seconds 0-60???
    And what happened to 1/3 of this van? That part just looks awful and there's no way to sugar coat it...

  • bengt avatar Bengt Posted: 9/9/2010 5:15pm PDT

    JKD, I've taken out Sienna acceleration references, for lack of an official number -- or test numbers for each from the same source. Driven back to back, the Sienna did feel slightly quicker.
    I have to admit that I wasn't sure at all about the lightning-bolt cue until I saw the whole vehicle in person. The lowered beltline at the back gives it a hunkered-back look that grew on us -- and it increases visibility.

  • Tom Posted: 9/9/2010 8:11pm PDT

    The black one you've pictured looks like a hearse. The morticians are no doubt lined-up at Honda stores already.
    This thing looks like the minivan stylists were doing just fine until they got to the C pillar - and then they went insane. There are hints of the Benz R-Class there, elements of the Nissan Quest, and even a passing resemblance to the late and unlamented Chrysler Pacifica. What were they thinking? If this thing is a sales success it's proof that Honda could put their name on a pile of steaming dog poo... and people would buy it.

  • Greg Posted: 9/10/2010 3:55pm PDT

    Here's a question for the 6'6" editor. OK, the second row was fine, but how was the front passenger seat for you? In the previous models, the front passenger seat was impossible for any man about average height. The gigantic glove compartment ate up all of the knee room, so it was impossible to sit there without repeatedly banging my shins on the glove compartment. Even on a short trip, I could expect bruised shins if I wasn't careful. In addition, the leg room on the passenger side was so shallow that it was impossible to extend my legs fully. Bad enough on short trips, but on long ones torture, like riding in an airplane seat. And the problem has been getting worse, not better - each year's model seems to have a little less legroom than the previous year.
    For what it's worth, the Sienna is even worse, because the center console also intrudes into the passenger's leg compartment, resulting in bruises not only on the shins but also on the side of the left knee. The 2011 Sienna does nothing to fix the situation. Does the Odyssey?
    Why on earth do they do this anyway? Every other Honda and Toyota car, SUV and truck that I have ever sat in has better configured leg space on the passenger side than their minivans do.