• Jeff Posted: 3/23/2010 9:17am PDT

    In Livonia Michigan, they have removed all stop signs in residential areas (those roads with 'equivalent status' so to speak, i.e., stop signs are still at the minor to major road intersections) and replaced them with yield signs. I see this as practical. Having spent many years in Europe, I am a big fan of roundabouts and realize their benefits. Unfortunately, whether it be a roundabout or a yield sign, it appears that most drivers in the USA do not understand that YIELD also means STOP if another vehicle is on the road with the right of way. Too many drivers think that YIELD means "I don't have to stop" or "Don't stop" when, in fact, it does mean stop under a given circumstance. This ignorance or just plain stupidity needs to be addressed to make universal yielding and/or roundabouts function correctly.
    Additionally, if anybody has experienced the "Michigan Left" type road system, you might wonder why this isn't done everywhere. A very good system when using traffic lights, IMO.

  • dave Posted: 3/23/2010 5:11am PDT

    I've been a proponent of roundabouts since my first trip to UK 30 years ago. I have no idea why we can't convert almost every intersection in the States to one. It really doesn't take much extra space and the time/fuel savings are substantial. My hat is off to Gary Lauder for his effort in making this happen.

  • Allan Posted: 3/22/2010 9:29pm PDT

    We need to stop installing so many traffic lights. They're not the solution. Thanks for giving roundabouts some respect.

  • fb_1510606196 avatar Carl Posted: 3/22/2010 6:17pm PDT

    Does anyone have a reason, other than costs, not to have round-a-bouts where there is sufficient cheap real estate; or Take-Turns at other places?
    Oh yeah - bureaucratic inertia will do it every time.

  • Eric Berlin Posted: 3/22/2010 4:52pm PDT

    "Take Turns"... simple, makes sense, sounds like good ideas to me.

  • Hygienic Headway Posted: 3/22/2010 3:58pm PDT

    Actually traffic circles DO work. There's a really complicated intersection near me & 30 years ago the highway engineers installed a huge roundabout which everyone took at 30-40 mph. Lots of crashes. Then they redesigned it with a smaller radius, landscaping in the middle so you couldn't see through it, and side lanes that allowed you to go one leg at a time without entering the circle. MAGIC! Despite the whining about waste of county & state money, accidents fell by 80 percent. Still works. Heh.
    Hate the sign design though.

  • The Transporter Posted: 3/22/2010 1:09pm PDT

    A combination of both would be great. Roundabouts for more heavily congested intersections to avoid the need to stop at all and Take Turns signs in other areas. One concern I would have is that intersections with the new signs may get obscured by new construction or overgrowth, resulting in more pedestrian incidents.

  • Limousine Liberal Posted: 3/22/2010 12:40pm PDT

    Seems pretty logical to consider more aggressive deployment of roundabouts. Unfortunately, the true costs are likely 2-10x any current estimates once you get city planners, government bureaucrats and union leaders involved.

  • Fizz Posted: 3/22/2010 12:26pm PDT

    This is a great idea! Makes a lot more sense than, "dealer's choice."