• Toasty Too Posted: 1/5/2010 1:24pm PST

    Yer datin yerself padgett, TDC hasn't been something people understand since oh the 80s or early 90s anyway

  • Edward Posted: 1/5/2010 12:38pm PST

    We're going to be at bottom for a long time...until credit becomes loose and free and we repeat this whole cycle again.

  • richard avatar Richard Posted: 1/5/2010 12:26pm PST

    Ugh, all those numbers. Math is hard. Isn't there a simpler way to divine the auto industry's future? You know, like the Hemline Index, but tied to something else, like celebrity adoptions? If Brangelina adopt two more Malawi children this year and each sees his shadow during the full moon, we'll be back above 12 million sales for 2010 -- something like that?

  • AutoBoy Posted: 1/5/2010 12:25pm PST

    Interesting post. Definitely a somewhat depressing subject / reality. Frankly, I was really disappointed to see that latest estimates for 2010 are not too much better than 2009 (which by most standards has to be considered a debacle - notwithstanding the few bright spots you mention). Importantly, need macro trends to improve before folks jump in to buying what is usually their second largest investment next to a house.

  • greedo Posted: 1/5/2010 12:19pm PST

    It'll be interesting to see, but with even the domestics posting y-o-y increases for December, I'd say we may be headed out of the trough already.

  • automaan Posted: 1/5/2010 12:06pm PST

    This to me sounds like a game of Limbo- "how low can you go?" very hard to predict especially the future. Nice to see that at least one US auto maker is doing reasonably well ( Ford).