• Craig Posted: 8/8/2009 10:19am PDT

    Any economist from the petroleum institute will tell you that historically Americans have spent an virtually unchanging percentage of income on fuel - regardless of cost of fuel, income changes and changes in fleet fuel economy. The net result of forcing better fuel economy is not a reduction in fuel consumption, but more miles drive and so more insurance claims.

  • plusaf Posted: 7/21/2009 7:49pm PDT

    we drive more because we get higher gas mileage... wow... rocket science 101.... people with longer commutes buy priuses to burn less gas and cost less for gas, so we shouldn't?... failure of logic 101.
    future plans for "expired" hybrid batteries includes removing them and connecting them to the photovoltaic collectors on your roof instead of using LEAD-acid batteries for storage.... yeah... bad idea, right?
    you guys are SO funny....
    and no, we're not ALL "left-lane-bandits," but i, for one, really get nervous when some asshole teener sits three feet off my bumper at 45+ miles per hour in a 45 mph zone and probably thinks their reaction time can beat my anti-lock brakes in an emergency.........
    so, nasty accident, yes... and who or what caused it? maybe somebody in their Jetta crossed the center line and blasted the front of her prius, and her insurance company collected it all back from his...
    no data = no valid conclusions.

  • Karen Posted: 7/21/2009 11:41am PDT

    Wow, I had no idea there was so much hostility out there for hybrid drivers. I bought my Prius four years ago, long before all this "force green down everyone's throat" stuff began, for economic reasons (my husband had a gas guzzler and we needed an economical car to offset it). I really love my car, but now I feel a little self-concious about how we are being perceived. The stats in this article don't surprise me since we do drive the Prius almost all the time, just as if it was our only car. But we are NOT eco-nazis and I hope we don't start getting descriminated against for buying a great car.

  • Brian Posted: 7/21/2009 10:52am PDT

    Well from dealing with them all around the country we have come to call them Pious drivers. For they all want to be seen stuck in the fast lane doing the speed limit and refusing to yield the lane and I love the look on their face when you pass them. I did not know that having a Hybrid makes you better than us or the moderator of the road way.
    I know that with each generation they Hybrid should be improving but when you see a TDI Jetta getting better mileage it’s amusing. And I have remember the old CRX great gas mileage and hell of fun to drive.
    Question for all the smugness of the Eco side for the Hybrids What are going to do with all these battery packs in the coming years from the Hybrids and the environmental damage and cost of making those batteries?
    Sorry for the ramble just my 2 cents

  • Alex Posted: 7/21/2009 9:16am PDT

    As for fredct's point about hybrid use decreasing use of non-hybrid / larger vehicles: yes, the article would be a lot more informative if there were also stats available on liability claims for hybrids, not just comprehensive claims. However -- the higher rate of moving violations per 100K miles driven means that there's something more involved here than just people taking the Prius out for errands instead of the Outback (or whatever).
    Don't get me wrong, I do admire Toyota for its technological achievement of building a car that's powered by smug self-righteousness and passive-aggression. But yeah: there's definitely something about the kind of people who tend to be drawn to a vehicle that costs that much and still gets lower gas mileage than a 20-year-old Honda CRX.

  • CK Dexter Haven Posted: 7/21/2009 8:30am PDT

    I think a hybrid owner sneaked into my home last night and left the toilet seat up.
    I am curious though, why would anyone bother bashing hybrid owners?

  • 4TimesAYear Posted: 7/20/2009 3:06pm PDT

    I don't think the insurance companies are going to stop giving them a break; they'll just raise our insurance. You know, just like they make insurance possible for drunk drivers by raising ours.

  • Deano Posted: 7/20/2009 1:01pm PDT

    This seems to reinforce the notion that the Prius attracts drivers that are self-centered, elitists who just don't care all that much about learning to drive within the bounds of legality.

  • Bengt Halvorson Posted: 7/18/2009 11:18am PDT

    Fredct, I think an even more appropriate question to be asking here (from the insurance standpoint) is, to what degree are hybrid owners forgoing trips and mileage in less fuel-efficient vehicles, in favor of their hybrids? And is that getting that likelier heavier vehicle, that might do more damage to other vehicles in an accident, off the road worthwhile to insurers as a whole? It's likely that this is at least part of the reason for the disparity in casual use, but unfortunately insurers won't be able to account for this until they more accurately track use, and on a state-by-state basis that's an entirely different can of worms.

  • fredct Posted: 7/18/2009 8:25am PDT

    Hmmm, which is more likely, that hybrids make people drive more? Or that people who need to drive a lot get more benefit from hybrids and are therefore more likely to drive them?
    The latter seems to be much more logical, yet the author pays it only lip service is his attempt to bash hybrids at any cost. Please.

  • TinCan Posted: 7/17/2009 7:43am PDT

    This makes me so glad that Mr. Obama is forcing GM and Chrysler to make these POS vehicles. The next thing you know, they'll be regulating auto insurance as well.

  • R2dad Posted: 7/16/2009 3:24pm PDT

    Well, well, well. Seems there might be something to the Prius driver = retard. Maybe they're too busy telling everyone else how to drive, hypermiling, talking on their phones and tweeting their favorite environmental lobbyist!