• WS Posted: 7/8/2008 3:36pm PDT

    Can someone explain further the use of this "Adblue" urea solution? Is the owner going to have to refill this solution after X number of fill-ups? If so, I'm not sure that part of this new diesel technology will be received well by the public.

  • Jack Posted: 7/8/2008 6:39pm PDT

    They all look the same to me.

  • wkile Posted: 7/8/2008 8:44pm PDT

    WS, the Adblue urea stuff is only good for X number of miles. If I am not mistaken the Urea solution that Mercedes uses is good for 15,000 miles (I could be wrong on the exact number) and the solution will have to be drained and refilled at a scheduled maintenance interval (along with the oil change).

  • Henry Posted: 7/8/2008 8:53pm PDT

    That gas mileage is little better than a gas powered counterpart. Thanks, Congress, for making our lives more expensive through idiotic emissions targets which are causing diesel engines to burn more fuel every year.

  • Ed Posted: 7/9/2008 5:58am PDT

    The 335de is a performaqnce diesel with the same copnsumption as a gas |(bot NON_perfoemance) cheapo base 3 series model.
    BMW should add to its diesel fleet the ECONOMY diesels, that have the same performance as the cheapo gas 3 base versions, but get 40+ MPG highway and 30 city.
    and offeer them Across the board, on the 3, x3, 5, x5, and even 7 series!

  • Graham Posted: 7/9/2008 6:51am PDT

    I do not know where the stated fuel consumption figures come from, but following are the European figures for the current 335d versus the 335i (coupe versions):
    Power Torque liter/100km CO2
    hp lbf-ft City Highway Combined g/km
    335d 286 428 9.1 5.3 6.7(35.1 mpg) 177
    335i 306 295 13.2 6.7 9.1(25.8 mpg) 218
    As can be seen the diesel has lower Power at -6.5%, but otherwise in all other terms is superior to the gas version:
    Torque 45% higher
    Fuel consumption
    City 45% better
    Highway 26% better
    Combined 36% better
    CO2 19% less (global warming gas emission)

  • Matt Posted: 7/9/2008 2:58pm PDT

    these performance and economy numbers must be wrong or i don't get it. A much less expensive (lighter and better balanced) 328i manual does 0-60 in 6.3 seconds and returns 18/28mpg. If we assume the diesel gets 28mpg average and the gasoline car gets 23mpg average. The diesel is getting 21% better mileage on fuel that is right now, 15% more expensive than premium. 6% better efficiency, how much is price premium for the diesel? Needs to be very small to make sense.