• xjug1987 Posted: 7/8/2008 11:34am PDT

    The "CRUZE" name is another effort to launch a car without a history. Does anyone know what a Corolla is? How about a Civic? Perhaps a Maxima or even a Camry? These are names that have been around for perhaps 30 or so years and everyone even my 70 yr old mother has heard of. This new car should be called the Chevelle. Most everyone knows it, why except GM. Guys we're rooting for you, why do you do this? Why not call it the Cruze G3XRP or C3PO GXP-R, R2D2 X-5 EXP?.. Get the old names off the shelf and use them!

  • EjB Posted: 7/8/2008 12:10pm PDT

    Ha ha ...you poor guys. The fact that you have the like of this s#!t to put up with as a so called new car is just funny. This car would have looked out of date about 10 years ago on my side of the pond. Im glad its coming to the Paris motor show though because Im going too and that looks like a nice big hood I can sit on to eat my lunch. Yes indeed ,the new Chevy Cruise can easily make it into my top 20 dullest cars of all time list. Sorry guys but it really is crap.

  • krivka Posted: 7/8/2008 1:00pm PDT

    EjB, umm, the car shown is a Cobalt, not quite the best thing in the segment, but then again, not as bad as some critics make it to be. The new one, the Cruze, (NOT a good name) is going to be very boring looking, but will be loaded with goodies. It will not be a CIVIC fighter, nor will it be as stylish as some of the French brands, but will give value. Since it is for multiple locations, expect the usual mix of gas and diesel P/P. For this side of the so called pond, it will be a very important product. I am looking forward to it

  • MIichael Posted: 7/8/2008 1:11pm PDT

    Re EjB comments. The photo is of the current Cobalt, not the new compact replacement. If the new Malibu is any guide, the new Cobalt replacement is going to be a winner. We Americans do not need your bashing since the liberals and the Media types are doing it for 30+ years, so much so that we may be losing all our home-grown car manufacturers. If the Brits is so good in making cars, why aren't any still own by your countrymen. Why must a foreign make be better than an American branded one. The dosmestic cars are actually more reliable than a VW, Volvo, Audi, BMW, and Mercedes. To my fellow Americans, please look at a domestic car before forming an opinion or simply following the trendy crowd because the job that you save may well be your own.

  • SkipCar Posted: 7/8/2008 2:04pm PDT

    Mlichael, I totally agree with you. I've been trying to tell people this for years. But, they've all bought the lie, sipped the Kool-Aid, etc. I've owned Toyotas, a Honda and various GM products and by far the GM vehicles were the least problematic. And I get comparable fuel mileage. My 2000 Oldsmobile Intrigue with nearly 182,000 miles on it regularly gets better mileage than friends' comparably-sized imports.

  • gas Posted: 7/8/2008 2:53pm PDT

    If it's anything like the old Chevy Cruze already available "over there", it looks like it will bore us to death. Can Chevy afford to wait 2 or more years for a new small car?

  • krivka Posted: 7/8/2008 6:25pm PDT

    Michael is blaming the liberals for the plight of the auto industry. The kool-aid has been drunk by the right wing corporatist enablers who believe the propaganda of the media. If you have evidence of left leaning media, post 'em, i want to subscribe.
    But to say the American cars have been as "good" as the Japanese over the past twenty years is also worthy of the kool-aid comment.
    GM will shrink to three brands and will finally build CARS and will be a good CAR company again.
    BTW, I bought a Malibu and it is as good as advertised, but there are still some problems that need to be handled by the dealer. So far so good though.

  • Jack Posted: 7/8/2008 6:41pm PDT

    I can't believe that Chevy took ..what like 10 years to come up with the Cobalt, and it looks like that. It's so generic looking.

  • Henry Posted: 7/8/2008 9:05pm PDT

    Krivka - I drive a 2001 Saturn L100 with a 5 speed transmission. It was built in Wilmington, DE by American workers. It was designed in Spring Hill TN. It has 157,000 miles and has had no major repairs. The car has given me great service and shows no signs of quitting any time soon. Everything on it works.
    I had a 1987 Acura Integra. At 120,000 miles, my AC compressor went, the paint completely faded, the steering wheel shook even after a wheel balance, and the exhaust system developed leaks. I got sick of driving it after a while and bought something else.
    American cars have closed the "reliability gap" with Japanese carmakers. On the road, you see many 20+ year old American cars on the road. There aren't nearly as many Japanese made cars of that vintage on the road even counting for their lower numbers in the US.
    GM's problems are the result of an arrogant management and product planning structure and outrageous legacy costs, which keep people in health plans long after they have retired from the company. GM, Ford and Chrysler need to drop those plans for all but the really sick. The US government (taxpayers) fund Medicare and Medicaid so that people can go to the doctor in case of an emergency. $2000.00 of the cost of cars is due to healthcare. That's ridiculous.

  • Odineye Posted: 7/8/2008 10:53pm PDT

    I can agree that the domestic automakers - especially GM - have come a long way in quality and reliability in the past decade. But anyone who believes that 20 year old American cars have a quality level comparable to Japanese cars of the same era is kidding themselves. Henry, I'm happy for your Saturn experience, but your case is not typical. What *you* see on the road is more likely a function of what has been sold in your area.

  • krivka Posted: 7/9/2008 9:24am PDT

    Henry I owned two Saturns, the 1992 blew a head gasket at 20,000 miles then started using a quart of oil every fill up, (Saturn knew and had a service bulletin to fix the problem ONLY if the oil consumption exceeded a certain level) THEN at 60k the compressor went, THNE at 65k the condenser went. THEN i sold it.
    Bough another in 1996 and it was decent. BUt they were MUCH better than my mother-in-laws ION. What a pice of junk. (sorry ION owners)
    The auto industry is changing and if GM wants to play, it needs to change too.
    You share my opinion about universal health care (I think). If the domestics didn't have to pay their costs would be less, but with their management unable to read the market (and instead, try to influence it) they are no longer able to give the consumer what they need or want. I love the Camaro, but it will sell 200,000 units MAYBE! They will never recoup their development costs. Meanwhile Kia brings out a new Spectra replacement while GM waits another two years to bring out its replacement of the Cobalt. How pathetic.