• Ed Posted: 4/5/2008 10:10am PDT

    Gimme a break.

    Who in his or her right mind would shell out $23,000 BEFORE options and taxes ($25,000 minimum with these) to buy this primitive, low-quality POS?

    You can buy TWO used BMW's SEVEN series Magnificent Sedans 740iL for that $25k! 1998-2001 vintage too!

  • JEM Posted: 4/5/2008 5:56pm PDT

    Ed - cool it a bit, I own two V8 E39 BMWs and while they're wonderful vehicles you're talking about vehicles now at or near ten years old.

    Stuff breaks, some of it cheap, some of it not, and no one's going to warranty one.

    With a 540i or 740i you're also feeding it at the rate of 16mpg average, they're big heavy cars that may or may not fit one's life and driving conditions.

  • Ed Posted: 4/6/2008 5:09pm PDT

    Well made luxury cars last far longer than other cars, and all cars last far longer than they used to.

    MPG is the last concern here. Not only because my commute is only 1.5 mile each way and i frequently walk it, it is insignificant in general compared to the other costs.

    The 740iL gets 22-24 HIGHWAY and both there and at the city, you drive like a KING and with the utmost passive AND active safety. In the city it does the 15-16 you mention.

    When I take it to a business trip to Wash DC, for example, my gas bill will be less than $150 for the 1,070 mile round trip, but I will get 50.5 cents/mile, or about $550 for the trip, with a net PROFIT of $400.

    But you are missing my point, it is NOT about the Magnificent 7, but about the Cobalt. Once can buy all kinds of OTHER, far, far superior to the cobalt, used cars, certified used too, for less $. A used BMW 3 with the manual, 1999-2005 series, also gets superb MPG!

    No econ literate person would shell $25k for the primitive subcompact cobalt, when the new AND used market has so much better choices.


  • Dave_in_Rio_Rancho Posted: 4/7/2008 3:48am PDT

    Ed - Are you a friend of Thor? You both seem to be attracted to old BMW 740s - listen to JEM, there is a reason these things are cheap to purchase.

  • Baghdadi Posted: 4/7/2008 7:12pm PDT

    This car is an old German made 'Opel' model name 'Astra',so now we know the future is in the past!.

  • Baghdadi Posted: 4/7/2008 7:14pm PDT

    I love the color,Gimme bourbon wine color as well!.

  • Eddie Posted: 6/2/2008 12:20am PDT

    not to be confused with Ed. I like What GM has done with the Cobalt. I rented one last year and i was impressed with the quality. I'm not too crazy about blown 4 bangers. Too many things can go wrong with them on the long run. Plus, they require 91+ Octane fuel. It would be better if GM stuffs a 3.6L V6 under the hood. They can get 250HP out of it with regular fuel and it would be more reliable on long run. That's just my opinion.