• Thor Posted: 3/10/2008 10:32am PDT

    Who the hell needs another StupidUglyVehicle???

    In 2000-2001, the Explorer, faulty as it was, was a best-selling vehicle with over 400,000 in annual sales. It must have made ford BILLIONS every year.

    In 2007-8, the FAR BETTER than its 2000 ancestor Explorer did not evne sell HALF the above number, and it is getting extinct soon.


    Same for all other StupidUglyVehicles of allmakers.

    Good riddance to bad rubbish,

    they are at least 50% responsible for our current $4 a gallon diesel (and soon gas) prices.

    (the other 50%from huge growth in China demand etc)

  • xjug1987 Posted: 3/10/2008 12:45pm PDT

    Thor, rubbish....? Me thinks you're not from these parts. Go back to Euro-Socialists and their liberal agendas. Drill in Anwar, and open our territory for drilling and we could push the numbers back to $20.00 a barrel. SUV's are bought by people and families who want the style, safety, etc... they provide. The market has turned and the new Ford Edge could have been called the "Explorer Edge" which would have given the car great name recognition, but with the, "hey it’s something totally new" flair. Thor, the Europeans have produced plenty of their own rubbish.

  • Thor Posted: 3/10/2008 1:49pm PDT

    XJUG: you don't have CLUE ONE. In fact, I have voted for G W Bush TWICE and have NOT regretted it, and have ALSO voted for McCain in the 2000 primary, and will see that he is elected President in 2008, and puts you worthless UAW spoiled clowns and incompetent Big 3 CEOS, who have been losing HOME GAMES to the Japanese and the Luxury Euros for 35 years IN A ROW, in the Unemployment line where you BELONG.

    PS I have been in these parts (Detroit area) for over 25 years. For the record.

  • xjug1987 Posted: 3/10/2008 1:56pm PDT

    Sorry T-Bag, I have more than clue one, two and three. Go back to Sweden, and take your rage with you.

  • xjug1987 Posted: 3/10/2008 2:01pm PDT

    Oh, and Romney would have been the better choice, however, we'll take what we get over whats on the other side.....

  • Bill Burke Posted: 3/10/2008 2:19pm PDT

    The Grand Cherokee is only one of three products that will be built here. My guess would be a Jeep (GC) a Dodge (Durango) and a Chrysler (Aspen). Having owned two Grand Cherokees and a Durango, I can tell you first hand they were all great S.U.V's. I think the new ones will have three rows of seats and hybrid capability. I have great faith in the new management team and expect a great product.

  • brian Posted: 3/10/2008 2:38pm PDT

    wake me when it has a diesel-hybrid - or at least variable displacement and an engine start-stop system.

  • Thor Posted: 3/10/2008 5:06pm PDT

    I appreciate Romney's business success. He may still end up McCain's VP, and then P, if they play their cards right.

  • Cherokee Scalped Posted: 3/10/2008 5:52pm PDT

    I had a '00 and have a '03. Not the highest quality vehicles, but good bang for the buck. I have really been waiting for the next gen version, and I was hoping for a '10 model with a '09 roll out. Sharing a platform with the Aspen and Durango is not confidence inspiring. Hybrid engine? Can I just pay a hippy to plant some trees?

    Looks like this will be the first big Jeep roll out for the new management.

    Don't **** it up.

  • Justin Posted: 3/10/2008 10:23pm PDT

    Thor, you voted for Bush TWICE and you're PROUD of that?! I think you just proved our point. You're obviously missing a chromosome or something. What's next? Gonna brag about marrying your sister?


    Looking forward to seeing the new GC.

  • Titan Posted: 3/10/2008 11:00pm PDT

    Chrysler/Dodge/Jeep already have enough urban SUVs. Make the the next Grand Cherokee an offroad capable vehicle like it was until 2004, not a tall station wagon like the current model. I want a nice family vehicle that can take my kids to some great remote camping spots.

    And where is this 5.6l v8 and 4.2l v6 Cummins diesel I read about in development years ago? I'd rather have that than the 3.0l Benz diesel this article alouds to.

  • Jason R. Posted: 3/10/2008 11:22pm PDT

    Bill Burke...name sounds familiar....aren't you a Chrysler insider?

  • Thor Posted: 3/11/2008 9:57am PDT

    Oiljust passed $109.

    The Grand Cherokee, the non-grands Cherokee, the Explorer, the Suburban, the Expedition and the Durango are all already fossils.

    Dinosaurs.

    And partly responsible for the huge rise in gas prices for ALL the rest of us, that are sober and have a brain and do not need a Hummer for the soccer mom to take the kids to the stupid game.

    Good riddance to bad rubbish!

  • Thor Posted: 3/11/2008 10:00am PDT

    " Justin Says:
    March 10th, 2008 at 9:23 pm

    Thor, you voted for Bush TWICE and you’re PROUD of that?! I think you just proved our point. You’re obviously missing a chromosome or something. What’s next? Gonna brag about marrying your sister?"

    Obviously we two do not have much in common... you should not assume others brag about what YOU brag about.

    "Looking forward to seeing the new GC."

    I am sure Chrysler will not have to publicize your interest in their vehicle... Do not expect to be their spokesperson any time soon, VULGARIAN LOSER!

    Had enough for the day, worthless PUNK? Lots more where thiscame from!

  • Havoline Posted: 3/11/2008 12:29pm PDT

    If I may interupt this political and personal discourse for a moment, I'd like to interject that someone got his (or her) wires crossed with regard to the diesel engine to be offered in the 2011 Grand Cherokee. It will not be the Daimler engine - it will be the new Cummins 4.2 V6 and it will be available in the 2010 model.

  • Ed Posted: 3/11/2008 1:02pm PDT

    The diesel makes a lot of sense, but I suspect it will be too late to save the SUV.

    The GC will arrive all right in 2011, but it will be DOA.

  • Andy Posted: 3/12/2008 11:51am PDT

    The Commander and Aspen are two vehicles that Chrysler never really needed to make. If they'd been introduced ten years ago and owners became loyal to the name and brand, it could have been different,even with gas at $3/gal+. Same with the Dodge Nitro, which I believe was created to fulfill a UAW contract requirement.

    Not a Jeep fan, but the GC is a nice vehicle and having a CRD version will give those that want it another reason to buy one.

    A mild hybrid (like the GMC Tahoe and the like) would have been a good idea for Aspen/Commander, but I think it's too late for that.

  • Erik Frisk Posted: 3/13/2008 6:51pm PDT

    The point is, the current generation of this vehicle is decent in function but it's stuck in the early '90s in form. People have moved on, and just as people moved on from their T&C wagons in the '70s and from their minivans in the '80s, they ain't coming back. This vehicle is going to be even more obsolete and irrelevant in '11 than it is now. It just goes to show how insular and out of touch the folks in Auburn Hills might be at times. How 'bout some new engineering/design investment in some of those half-baked products that have come out over the past year or two...you know, the ones that are in relevant segments that might be growing?

  • Wildman Posted: 4/1/2008 12:11am PDT

    You know, I've seen the econo-cars that seem to made from flattened pop cans - not to impressed with it's safety or cargo capacity. What we today is a fad. Americans need speed and space. And the Hybrid revolution is just a cop out. What we need is fuel cell power. Until that time comes I will drive my 02 4.7l H.O. GC even if gas goes to $5.50/gal. I get 24mpg on highway and I can still tow my boat and go camping back in the mountains. Want to go green? Go fuel cell!!!

  • Jim Posted: 4/8/2009 4:49pm PDT

    "independent "

    Its nice to hear they are going to use the ML platform.
    I have a ML63. It is the best car I have ever had. I drive about 25K miles a year so I live in this thing.
    I'm also a big Jeep fan. Got an off roading TJ.
    Marrying the ML with a Hemi at $42K is a winner in my book. Mercedes technology with an American V*...perfect.

  • Jacob Posted: 11/10/2009 4:26pm PST

    Chrysler needs to get back to it's Grand Cherokee roots with a beefy engine, fantastic 4 wheel drive system and reliable features. Quality is key to their survival! They have spent to much time fiddling with this and that - they need to stay focused on what works. There are lots of great websites out there that cater just to Grand Cherokee owners like www.WJJeeps.com (Describes many of the OEM Parts and options as well as TSB's etc. and www.JGCParts.com (grand cherokee tweeters) plus many others have had to pick up the slack and make fixes for the weaknesses of their designs. This is just bad for owners who have to spend extra to fix what should have been done right from the factory. Thanks to the many dedicated owners who have created these amazing workarounds. I can hardly wait to test drive the new Diesel version I must admit, and I hope this line never goes astray like the Commander and Compass. Those are just big boxy cars and NOT TRUE OFFROAD vehicles. Stay with the Solid front and rear Axel! The popularity of the Expedition deminished once they couldn't be lifted anymore - No one wants something you can't personalize. Look at the success of the Toyota Scion, it has a huge fan base because they can be heavily modified and are reliable. I'm just saying.