Prius Versus HUMMER: Exploding the Myth
DISCUSS: Which one's greener?
Over the past year, there has been an explosion of stories raising questions about the real environmental cost of hybrids.
One of the most misleading ones, which has been spread by countless blogs over the past several weeks, and cited without verification by several sources that appear reputable, looks to have originated in a story last November in England’s Daily Mail, a right-leaning, British tabloid paper, which bore the gleefully spiteful title ‘Toyota factory turns landscape to arid wilderness.’ An editorial, published last month in a newspaper for a small state university on the East Coast, helped bring this misleading report a new life.
But it isn’t a
And that ore is at the core of a semi-urban legend that leads to dumb headlines like “HUMMER Greener than Prius,” and others we’ve seen recently.
Of course, metal-hydride hybrid batteries aren’t the only use for nickel. One widespread use of nickel is for the chrome (chromium-nickel) plating that’s widely used in trim and wheels for luxury vehicles. And according to the Nickel Institute, which represents trade groups, manufacturers, and nickel producers, about two-thirds of all nickel mined goes toward stainless steel, which is of course widely used in vehicles — exhaust systems, for instance. Another significant portion goes toward engine alloys — pistons, rings, liners and the like; in general, the larger the engine, the more nickel it’s likely to have.
Living in the limelight
On to the other, more significant source of these stories: About a year ago, CNW Marketing Research, Inc., of Bandon, Ore., a firm with a well-established reputation for industry forecasting, made claims last year that that hybrid vehicles used more energy in their lifetime, from creation to disposal, than many SUVs. The tagline of one of CNW’s releases was, “Hybrids Consumer More Energy in Lifetime Than Chevrolet’s Tahoe SUV.”
With the full study released in December, called “Dust to Dust: The Energy Cost of New Vehicles from Concept to Disposal,” CNW claims to assess all stages of vehicle production, including research and development, raw material production and sourcing, production and assembly, sales, operation and maintenance, and disposal of the vehicle at the end of its life.
CNW argues that its study is not geared to be an assault on hybrids, but in interpreting its results CNW states that environmentalists’ faith in hybrids as a more efficient means of transportation is misguided to a degree, as many larger vehicles with lower gas mileage actually use less energy from dust to dust. Several outlets have held on to the idea that a Prius does more damage to the environment than a HUMMER, with the CNW study as their sole source. But of course, that study aside, there’s a fatal flaw in this reporting: environmental damage and energy are not at all synonymous.
Lifecycle analysis is nothing new to the auto industry. It’s been done internally for decades with cars and all manner of household appliances and electronics. What is new this decade is that a significant portion of shoppers are considering it, spurred by the recent movement toward environmental consumerism, and pop-culture books like 2002’s Cradle to Cradle, by William McDonough and Michael Braungart, which focuses on the recycling of consumer goods.
CNW’s research was done largely ‘under the radar,’ using publicly available data along with phone and mail research and on-site analysis of assembly plants. The research included demographics such as how far the vehicle was expected to go in its lifetime and over how many years the vehicle will remain with its initial buyer. Other factors included lifetime maintenance, mechanical repairs, and accident repairs; design and development costs; manufacturing (including energy in employee commuting); administrative support; transportation to retail; dealership operations; and the cost of recycling and disposing of parts and materials.
HUMMER has, for example, established a new national network of new, standalone Quonset hut, hangar-style dedicated dealership facilities over the past several years, and a completely new assembly plant was built for the assembly of the H2 SUV, which would bring their lifetime cost up significantly.
After all the numbers had been crunched, among vehicles sold in the U.S. in the 2005 calendar year, CNW found the least expensive vehicle to be the Scion xB at 48 cents per mile in overall energy costs. The most energy-expensive vehicle was the Maybach at $11.58 per mile in energy costs over its estimated lifetime. The VW Phaeton, Rolls-Royce line, and Bentley line followed closely behind. In all of these instances, these are overall energy costs incurred from inception through disposal, not energy costs associated only with vehicle ownership.
To compare, the Toyota Prius involves $3.25 per mile in energy costs over its lifetime, according to CNW, while several full-size SUVs scored lower. A Dodge Viper involves only $2.18 in energy per mile over its lifetime. The Range Rover Sport costs $2.42, and the Cadillac Escalade costs $2.75.
“If a consumer is concerned about fuel economy because of family budgets or depleting oil supplies, it is perfectly logical to consider buying high-fuel-economy vehicles, said Art Spinella, president of CNW, in a release. “But if the concern is the broader issues such as environmental impact of energy usage, some high-mileage vehicles actually cost society more than conventional or even larger models over their lifetime.
The junkyard brawl ensues
Some of the greater cost of hybrids, according to CNW, is due to the higher cost of recycling hybrids. On an energy basis, the firm says, vehicles cost an energy-equivalent average of $119,000 to recycle, while hybrids average $140,000. But CNW later says that it calculates the Prius’s battery as costing $93 in energy to recycle.
“If Toyota can reduce the complexity of building hybrids to a simple ‘plug and play’ system whereby major hybrid electrics and electronics can be easily detached and disposed of for simplified replacement, the cost would drop dramatically. That is not the case with most hybrids today, however,” CNW says.
In a prepared statement, the automaker says, “
Fueling the controversy
David Friedman, research director of the Clean Vehicles Program at the Union of Concerned Scientists, thinks that CNW’s results and apparent methodology bring red flags. “This study has been completely contradicted by studies from MIT, Argonne National Labs and Carnegie Mellon’s Lifecycle Assessment Group. The reality is hybrids can significantly cut global warming pollution, reduce energy use, and save drivers thousands at the pump,” commented Friedman.
CNW’s figures, for example, show that the Civic Hybrid can cost nearly $165,000 more over its lifetime, “dust to dust,” than the standard Civic, which is a difficult figure to swallow, even considering the extra development, materials, and disposal of the Hybrid variant. Honda’s Integrated Motor Assist (IMA) system is a mild hybrid system and many engineers have admired its elegant and simple design and function, considering the efficiency gains.
The CNW study fuels further controversy by alleging that automakers — specifically mentioning Toyota — don’t include the energy that goes into modules that are built by suppliers and then shipped to the assembly plant. But
But Toyota also says that the study uses an unrealistically low estimated lifetime for hybrids, and that there's no data to support its assumptions in this. For instance, according to the study the average Prius is expected to go 109,000 miles over its lifetime, while a Hummer H1 would go 379,000 miles. CNW says about hybrids: “…these are generally secondary vehicles in a household OR they are driven in restricted or short range environments such as college campuses or retirement neighborhoods.”
One other area of the study that some critics have found to be misleading is that CNW only included the so-called design and development cost of models sold so far, not on the potential volume of that technology in the long run.
In a section that seems to be leading to the dismissal of existing hybrids as having technology with a short shelf life, the study goes on to say that “…many of the hybrid models — such as the Insight and Prius — are early renditions of the technology that are being or soon will be replaced by more efficient and less complicated versions effectively making the current versions obsolete within a few short years.”
In a similar manner, the methodology also looks to take into account how many vehicles have been produced by existing factories so far, not how many vehicles might be produced over the lifetime of the factories, so
Grasping the ‘social energy’ of what you drive
CNW also includes overall “social energy expenditures,” which it describes in very little detail except with a coffee analogy, alleging that while most peer-review papers only analyze the energy demands from the grinding of the coffee forward, the firm’s report analyzes everything including the “coffee mug maker.”
But if the mug could also just as well be used for tea or hot chocolate, do you still include that cost? As you dig farther up the supply chain, the answers seem to get fuzzier, and without figures or meaty methodology details from CNW it’s unclear what kind of assumptions were made. The firm has not responded to our request for comment.
While its methodology may remain unclear, the report does include some useful and eye-opening information that few car shoppers had likely even thought about. Hopefully this controversy will spur shoppers to demand more information about the vehicles they drive other than emissions and mpg and consider the big-picture impact.
Related articles
Nissan Plans New Batteries, Plug-Ins by Paul A. Eisenstein (4/15/2007)
Zetsche Promises Every DC A Hybrid by Joseph Szczesny (4/8/2007)
CEO says green machines are company’s big goal.
Toyota Puts $2000 Spiff on Prius by TCC Team (4/4/2007)
Company on track for half-million hybrids.
Honda Called Greenest Automaker by Bengt Halvorson (4/3/2007)
Honda and

Forums
RSS
Dealers







Comments (15 total)
The solution?
By Andy | Posted: Jun 14th 2008, 01:06:08 PM
Live locally and ride a bike or take mass transit.
Owner 625k Inc.
By Bob Wilson | Posted: Jul 27th 2008, 07:49:46 AM
I enjoyed this summary of what many hybrid car advocates have been saying for years. You have covered all of the bases. Now with $4+ gas, the best thing CNW Marketing can do is a "mea culpa" and put the final nail in the "Dust-to-Dust" coffin. Otherwise, it remains an Albatross bringing doubts about any other publications they may make.
Many hybrid advocates have been making similar criticisms of CNW Marketing for years. I for one am glad to see others pick up the mantel even if not terribly timely. My way of saying, "Where were you guys?"
Bob Wilson
Why not just call it a lie?
By Tim | Posted: Aug 12th 2008, 12:13:40 PM
While this article does a fairly good job of debunking the CNW "report", I have to wonder why, considering the immense hype this "report" has generated, the general, "mainstream" media has not done any investigative reporting on how this obviously bogus report got made and put out in the media. "CNW Marketing" is obviously a front set up to allow the Big 3 Detroit automakers to trash the Japanese hybrids while they frantically get their own sorry engineering divisions in gear to build decent cars (anyone ever been to or heard of "Bandon, Oregon?!?!). I predict that after the Big 3 start making their own hybrid cars that CNW (or a similar front) will come out with a "report" that says that detroit-made hybrids are the Greenest Cars on God's Earth and the "dust to dust" report will quietly disappear altogether. Just business, guys, no hard feelings!
Where is the other sides evodence?
By Scott | Posted: Oct 6th 2008, 07:44:56 PM
What I find interesting is that everyone automatically debunks these claims based on lack of cited evidence, when neither Toyota nor others that wich to debunk the claim use and cited evidence of their own, only small snippets of information of the very misleading, statement A credible source says they're wrong. Where is the proper point counter point? All I ever see is "it's not true because I don't believe it!" if that train of thought was true then the world would still be thought of as round and the earth would still be believed to be the center of the universe. I like the arguments as a whole I just wich people would stop being hypocritical about one side needing sources and the other being able to say whatever it wants withought sources. Myabe the prius is more damaging maybe it isn't, but the standards should be the same, I want to hear and unbiased report from both sides, so hybrid drivers where are your cites? Stop saying the 'evil' conventional car supporters need sources of information and focus your attention on coming up with sources of your own.
Yes I misspelled some things...
By Scott | Posted: Oct 6th 2008, 07:46:14 PM
I was frustrated at the blind hypocrasy...that is all.
Misguided
By Andy | Posted: Oct 20th 2008, 09:46:13 AM
"a firm with a well-established reputation for industry forecasting"..puts together a "dust to Dust" report that states that hybrids are not the green energy saving machines they are made out to be...and the statements it makes need bebunking?
The lifetime energy cycle of a car must be known by the companies prior to production and they still use the "green" eco tint to sell them. Now where have i heard that before? Anyone for a wind farm in theyre garden?
tim
By timothy Sommer | Posted: Dec 7th 2008, 12:48:48 PM
One other area of the study that some critics have found to be misleading is that CNW only included the so-called design and development cost of models sold so far, not on the potential volume of that technology in the long run. This statement clearly shows hoe dishonest these critics of the study are. You can only study the past and any claims the future can be studied are incredibly stupid or dishonest for the purpose of misleading.
Big Picture
By David | Posted: Dec 7th 2008, 11:51:33 PM
The fact that we can even have an argument about whether the Prius or the Hummer is greener indicates that the Prius is at best marginally greener than other vehicles. The truth of the matter is that if you want a green vehicle, you need to use your legs or a bike...but even those cause environmental problems. Unless you eat local organic food, your legs are burning calories that are deeply imbued with burnt oil. And the bike probably was built at a Chinese factory powered by electricity from a coal-powered power plant spewing all sorts of poisons into the air. Everybody needs to take deep breath, relax, and take steps to accomplish their goals.
One more thing to concider
By Ray Fontanes | Posted: Jan 14th 2009, 05:52:37 PM
If you put a car seat in the center of the back seat you child might glow in the dark after a long drive. Do elctro magnetic frequencies effect the driver? Can you listen to AM in a hybrid?
One more thing to concider
By Ray Fontanes | Posted: Jan 14th 2009, 06:01:26 PM
If you put a car seat in the center of the back seat you child might glow in the dark after a long drive. Do elctro magnetic frequencies effect the driver? Can you listen to AM in a hybrid? Nice post Big Picture and the solution. A ship in its harbor is safe but that is not what ships are for.
glow in the dark?
By mdclxvis | Posted: Feb 4th 2009, 08:31:29 PM
wtf "one more thing to concider(sic)" why on earth would a child glow in the dark if sat in the back seat of a prius? If this was the case... why has no one else ever heard of this? It sounds completely ridiculous to me
The End of the Road
By Darren | Posted: Feb 26th 2009, 03:53:12 PM
Andy, are you saying that you want to ride a bike to work in Mineapolis in January through 2 feet of snow? How about in Bozeman, MT where there is no public transportation. What a simple-minded, thoughtless solution.
And what about those who need to carry more than four people or need to haul materials or equipment? We have a pop-up tent trailer? Do you think a Prius will tow that to the mountains? How about my bicycle? Can that tow a 1200 pound trailer?
The Hybrid is - at best - a stop-gap measure designed to eat up trillions of development and consumer dollars that could be far more effective at developing what really should be next. Do I know what that is? Hydrogen? Fuel-cell? Who knows. But we just plopped a trillion bucks down on golf carts. Good investment, world.
And someone explain to me why my 1983 Honda Civic got 40 to 45 on the highway in Wyoming (at altitude) going 80 mph (depending on the wind direction) while the new Civic is hallowed when it gets 35 Hwy? I guess the real solution is that we all go back to driving 1983 Honda Civic hatchbacks. There, I can be as simple-minded and thoughtless as Andy.
The End of the Road
By Darren | Posted: Feb 26th 2009, 03:54:46 PM
Andy, are you saying that you want to ride a bike to work in Mineapolis in January through 2 feet of snow? How about in Bozeman, MT where there is no public transportation. What a simple-minded, thoughtless solution.
And what about those who need to carry more than four people or need to haul materials or equipment? We have a pop-up tent trailer? Do you think a Prius will tow that to the mountains? How about my bicycle? Can that tow a 1200 pound trailer?
The Hybrid is - at best - a stop-gap measure designed to eat up trillions of development and consumer dollars that could be far more effective at developing what really should be next. Do I know what that is? Hydrogen? Fuel-cell? Who knows. But we just plopped a trillion bucks down on golf carts. Good investment, world.
And someone explain to me why my 1983 Honda Civic got 40 to 45 on the highway in Wyoming (at altitude) going 80 mph (depending on the wind direction) while the new Civic is hallowed when it gets 35 Hwy? I guess the real solution is that we all go back to driving 1983 Honda Civic hatchbacks. There, I can be as simple-minded and thoughtless as Andy.
Maybe we need eyes to see.
By joe | Posted: May 27th 2009, 09:05:16 PM
The Toyota manufacturer offered no facts about life time energy cost. only generalized statements.
By Mindless | Posted: Jun 2nd 2009, 01:58:39 PM
Although there is lack of independent studies for Life time costs that could contradict CNW's report, it is mindless to think Hummer or any other larger would use less energy in a lifetime than a Prius. Plus, personally, I would buy a prius. 50+ mpg vs. 11 to 15 mpl? mindless
Post a comment: